British Israel - David’s Royal Line
Published 20260104 -:- Revised 20260104--p
Aim Of this Talk overall
I would like to look at the prophecies referring to the eternal future of the family line of David through to Christ; Luke 1:32 “God shall give Him the throne of His father David.” Also looking at where the prophecies refer to Christ as both the King and High Priest over Israel. I have divided this talk into 8 lessons. Each lesson is then a bite size topic that can be covered within 40 minutes which includes discussion and question time at the end of each lesson.
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 1: - David’s Royal Line - First Mention
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 2: - Israel DEMANDS A King!
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 3: - God Tells David His Long Term BIG PLAN
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 4: - Confirmation in Prophecy Of David’s Continuous Royal Line
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 5: - The Decline Of David’s Line
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 6: - British Israel Becomes A Faith Message
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 7: - Melchizedek And Jesus
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 8: - The Eternal Role Of Christ
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 1: David’s Royal Line - First Mention
Aim
In this lesson I would like to look into the origin of the throne of David, in other words it’s first mention.
Introduction
In my humble opinion, I believe there are 6 Basic messages in the bible. (If you can think of more drop me a line in the comments). But these messages tend to go "hand in glove" and seem to be inter-related or inter-dependant! For example, you can't have a kingdom unless you have land over which your kingdom can spread! You can’t have a king on a throne, without a kingdom and people over which he can govern! Anyway that’s food for thought; here is my basic list of bible messages: -
The Salvation Message: That is the gospel message of salvation to the individual.
The Message to the Church: Its Conduct and Gifts, most often explained in Paul's epistles.
The Kingdom Message: That is ‘The Kingdom that is Not of this World', and your authority in Christ.
The Throne of David Message: The Eternal Promise to David and his family line, culminating with Christ.
The House of Israel Message: Their Worldly Inheritance and their role as God’s clean up force, refer Jer 51:19-23
The House of Judah Message: They are the Custodians of The Word of God.
King In Israel, ‘FIRST Mentioned’
Stretch you memory a bit, where can you recall the first mention that there would be a king in Israel? When you think about it, God is The King of the universe on His Glorious Throne in heaven; we know this from all the visions described by the prophets. Also the things in heaven are usually foreshadowed on earth. For example God tells Moses to build a tabernacle, the type and shadow of the temple, that he was shown in heaven. Exo 25:8-9 “According to all that I show you, the pattern of the tabernacle". And all through the Revelation there are references to ‘the temple ‘ in heaven. So it was not really mans idea to have a king to rule over them in Israel. God already hand that plan up his sleave. So where do you think the first mention of a king appeared? Would you believe it goes back as far as Abram in Geneses chapter 17?
Kings Through Abraham
Gen 17: 4 “As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. [There is the starting point for ‘A Kingdom’ over many nations!] :5 Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of many nations. :6 And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, greatly so, and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come out of you. :7 And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your seed after you in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God to you and to your seed after you.”
This is telling us that it was God’s plan that the kingdom is going to be everlasting! Also if we go to 1 Samuel chapter 8 where the prophet Samuel was asked by the leaders of Israel to choose a king to lead them, and Samuel was reluctant to have any part in the idea. Read verse 7 “And Jehovah said to Samuel, Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.” So God knows the begging from the end, or visa versa. Therefore it is clear in the verse above, in Geneses 17:6, that God had already planed to have a king, on an earthly throne, to rule over this everlasting kingdom!
Kings Through Sarah [Isaac's Birth Promised]
Skip down to: - Gen 17:15 where God renamed Sarah, then verse 16 “And I will bless her, and give you a son also of her. Yes, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations, kings of people shall be from her. :17 And Abraham fell upon his face and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born to him that is a hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear? :18 And Abraham said to God, Oh that Ishmael might live before You! :19 And God said, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son indeed. And you shall call his name Isaac. And I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him." So here we have from Sarah, she had only one child Isaac, and he would be the progenitor of an everlasting kingly line!
This bit in Geneses 17, where Abraham laughed, I think it shows the wonderful relationship between God and Abraham. Refer Isa 41:8 "But you, Israel, are My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, My friend". But in the next chapter when Sarah laughed, Gen 18:12 “Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, …:13 And Jehovah said to Abraham, Why did Sarah laugh….? :15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I did not laugh; for she was afraid. And He said, No, but you did laugh.”
Other Kingly Lines?
Back it up a bit, Kings will come through Abraham!? You have Ishmael to think about with possible kingly lines. BUT don’t forget that Abraham later took a second wife after Sarah died. So do kings continue through his second wife as according to Geneses 17 verse 6 above? Refer: - Gen 25:1 “Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. :2 And she bore him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. :3 And Jokshan fathered Sheba and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim and Letushim and Leummim. :4 And the sons of Midian: Ephah and Epher and Hanoch and Abida and Eldaah. All these were the sons of Keturah. :5 And Abraham gave all that he had to Isaac. :6 But to the sons of the concubines which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts. And he sent them away from Isaac his son while he still lived, eastward to the east country.” So we have seven more sons through Abraham, Ishmael plus six through Keturah. For them you can do your own study to see if ‘Kings’ came up through them. But the key issue is that God said, “you shall call his name Isaac. And I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him!" And we know that the royal line of David came down through Isaac.
The Land
You can’t have a kingdom without
a land! Gen 17:8 “And I will give the land to you in which
you are a stranger, and to your seed after you, all the
land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession. And I will be their
God. :9 And God said to Abraham, And you shall keep My covenant, you and
your seed after you in their generations.” Then God goes on to describe the
covenant of circumcision. BUT how
big was the area of the land of Canaan? Well Google tells me; “The area
of the ancient Land of Canaan was approximately 6,600 square
miles (around 17,000 sq km) for the land between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean Sea." Which was a HUGE sized property for God to give to
an old bloke like Abraham who just turned a hundred. In comparison the biggest
cattle station in Australia is the Anna Creek Station,
and it covers approximately 23,677 square kilometres, which is only about 1.4
times bigger than the size of Canaan! But these days we have helicopters and
4X4’s to round up cattle. In Old Abraham’s day it was all done on foot! And
being such a huge area for Abraham, it’s no wonder that he said to his nephew
Lot, “You take half and I’ll take the other half”, Genesis 13:9.
The Covenant [The Title Deed!]
This is very interesting because it indicates who can be a part of this land of Israel, and they DO NOT need to have any bloodline link to the line of Abraham. Gen 17:10 “This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your seed after you. Every male child among you shall be circumcised. :11 And you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin. And it shall be a token of the covenant between Me and you. :12 And a son of eight days shall be circumcised among you, every male child in your generations; he that is born in the house, or bought with silver of any stranger who is not of your seed. :13 He that is born in your house, and he that is bought with your silver, must be circumcised. And My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. :14 And the uncircumcised male child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.” WOW!
Let’s go to Part 2: - Israel
DEMANDS A King! In that lesson see how Israel ‘Demanded' a king from God, and
the ups and downs of the kingdom through to the ascension of David to the
throne.
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 2:
Israel DEMANDS A King!
Revision
In Part 1 we looked at the covenant promise through Abraham and Isaac of a king, on an earthly throne, to rule over this everlasting kingdom! With the land of Canaan and the title deed, being the circumcision!
Aim
In Part 2 we look at what lead up to Israel wanting a king and what God thought of the issue. Then a very brief look at how David came into the picture
A King For Israel!
Just imagine it is 1049 BC and you see all this stuff on your ‘internet’, on your ‘stone tablet' and your hearing it from your Wi-Fe! Cause she is telling you all this gossip! ‘We want a king to rule over us like other kingdoms have’; ‘Samuel find us a king!’ ‘A king for Israel!’ ‘Please give a Thumbs-Up if you agree and want a king!’ Ha Ha! But it was typical election lobbying, refer 1 Samuel 8:4-6. The short story is that Samuel got reluctantly dragged into the selection process, but God told him to tell the people “The Privilege Of The King”
Samuel's Warning Against Kings
1Sa 8:10 “And Samuel told all the Words of Jehovah to the people who asked a king of him. :11 And he said, This will be the privilege of the king who shall reign over you. He shall take your sons and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and his horsemen. And they shall run before his chariots. :12 And he will appoint commanders over thousands, and commanders over fifties, and some to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and make his weapons of war and weapons for his chariots. :13 And he will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. :14 And he will take your fields and your vineyards and your olive-yards, the best, and give them to his servants. :15 And he will take the tenth of your seed and of your vineyards, and give it to his eunuchs and to his servants. :16 And he will take your male slaves and your slave girls, and your finest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work. :17 He will take the tenth of your sheep, and you shall be his servants. :18 And you shall cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and Jehovah will not answer you in that day.”
In other words God said; “IS
THIS WHAT REALLY YOU WANT!” And the elders of Israel still said YES!
1Sa 8:19.
Ultimately Saul was chosen to be king over Israel and if yo go to 1Samuel
10:19-21, it seemed like Samuel used some guidance from the Lord for a
selection process, perhaps ‘Urim and Thummim’, the bible doesn’t say.
Finally by God's leading Saul was chosen to be King of Israel. So you would
think Saul would have turned out to be good value for Israel wouldn’t you? 1Sa
11:6 “And the Spirit of God came powerfully on Saul when he
heard those words,” that Jabesh-gilead was under siege. But only two chapters
later in 1 Samuel chapter 13, Saul did the wrong thing. Saul was told to wait until Samuel arrived to make the sacrifice. But
no Saul jumped the gun and did the sacrifice himself. In verses 13 and 14
Samuel tells Saul his kingdom is finished and that God has told Samuel there is
someone else who will take the throne of Israel. From then on Saul just
continued making mistakes. And later when Samuel went to find David it was
obvious that Saul was watching Samuels’s actions.
Check your bible to see if it has main headings. Just by skimming through the headings you can see the demise of Saul’s reign over Israel. Just look at these headings given in italics for example: - 1Sa 12 Samuel's Farewell Address, (Samuel goes into retirement). 1Sa 13 Saul Fights the Philistines, Saul's Unlawful Sacrifice. 1Sa 14 Jonathan Defeats the Philistines, (but he eats some honey). Saul's Rash Vow, (any one who eat will be put to death!). Saul Fights Israel's Enemies, 1Sa 15 The Lord Rejects Saul! 1Sa 16 David Anointed King, (God choses a man after His own heart!). David in Saul's Service, (David is brought in to play the harp to sooth Saul from the evil spirit sent by God!). Finally; 1Sa 17 David and Goliath. Eventually David becomes a member of Saul’s entourage and gains the favour of ALL and the jealousy of Saul! 1Sa 28:7 Finally Saul got involved with witchcraft before a final big battle in which he and his son were killed.
During Saul’s reign God sent Samuel off on a covert mission to select another king for Israel, refer 1 Samuel 16. God sent him to Bethlehem, ‘find a bloke by the name of Jesse and one of his sons is the one I’ve chosen’. So Samuel gets to Jesses‘ house, on some pretext he is there just to do something else. (Because Saul already has wind of the idea Samuel is looking for a replacement king!) And when Samuel gets there to pick one of Jesses’ boys: the lad is not even there! He is some stripling of a kid name David, and he’s out looking after the sheep. So even Jesse didn’t consider presenting him before Samuel to be chosen! But David got anointed and from then on things all paned out according to ‘God’s BIG PLAN’ for the start of an everlasting royal family line. But not without some major hiccups; Saul often tried to have David killed or try to kill him himself. All great skull doggery reading! But when David did become king, he had to face a couple of civil wars, along with wars against Israel’s’ enemies. But all through those trying times the one big difference between Saul and David is that David most often sought the Lord as to what to do, his Psalms are full of him enquiring of the Lord.
You can do your own study of King David’s reign; most of it is outlined in the second book of Samuel. The book of 1 Kings has the final years of David and the, ‘back-stabbing’ lead up to the Anointing of King Solomon. Then I find it interesting that in closing David’s reign, David gives Solomon a ‘Hit List’ in 1 Kings chapter 2. But let’s back up the story line a few years to where God had a chat with David. Part 3: - God Tells David His Long Term BIG PLAN and see what God tells David about His ‘BIG Plan' for both Israel and David's eternal family line.
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 3:
God Tells David His Long-Term BIG PLAN
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel demanded of God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally David comes to power.
Aim
In Part 3 I want to focus on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’. Then look at the promise of an everlasting kingdom and an everlasting descendant of David to rule on that kingdom.
God’s Chat With David
David had his ups and downs but God pulled him through it all until David had no more enemies to subdue, he’s bored! So he came up with this bright idea to build a temple for the Lord. This whole chapter in 2 Samuel chapter 7 could be likened to a visionary door opening for David. God opens up to David the ‘Long Term BIG PLAN’ that He has for Both Israel the nation and for David’s family line. The same account of this is recorded in 1Ch 17 almost word for word, so that constitutes being on recorded twice.
How did it start?
2Sa 7:1 “And it happened when the king dwelt in his house, and when Jehovah had given him rest round about from all his enemies, :2 the king said to Nathan the prophet, See now, I live in a house of cedar, but the ark of God dwells within curtains. :3 And Nathan said to the king, Go, do all that is in your heart, for Jehovah is with you.”
God Asks ‘Have I Ever Needed A Temple?
2Sa 7:4 “And that night the Word of Jehovah came to Nathan saying, :5 Go and tell My servant David, So says Jehovah, Shall you build Me a house for My dwelling? :6 For I have not dwelt in a house since the day that I brought up the sons of Israel out of Egypt until this day, but have walked in a tent, even in a tabernacle. :7 In all places in which I have walked with all the sons of Israel, did I speak a word with any of the tribes of Israel, those I commanded to feed My people Israel, saying, Why do you not build Me a house of cedars?”
God Told David ‘I Have Been Watching You’
2Sa 7:8 “And now so shall you say to My servant David, So says Jehovah of Hosts: I took you from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people, over Israel. :9 And I was with you wherever you went, and have cut off all your enemies out of your sight, and have made you a great name like the name of the great ones in the earth.”
God’s Future Plan For The Nation
Now this is really quite weird, and most people NEVER really catch onto it, or fully understand it! Look at it from David’s point of view: He is king over ALL Israel; And Israel is IN “The Promised Land”; And every kingdom around about his kingdom are paying him tribute! Then God says He is going to move Israel and they will NEVER come back to this location? Read this a few time until that sinks in!
2Sa 7:10 “And I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them so that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more. Neither shall the sons of wickedness afflict them any more, as before.” Let’s put that into some simple plain language. What is God actually saying? “I will appoint a place for My people Israel”, aren’t they already in the promised land? Now God is saying He has another place for His people Israel. “and will plant them”, so God is the one who is going to plant them in this new location! That they may dwell in a place of their own? A new land that they can call their own land! “And move no more”? So they will NEVER come back to the land of Israel?
God’s BIG PLAN For David
David’s Eternal House, (i.e., Family Line), And The Eternal Throne. Take note of verse 14! Most people skim over all of this chapter and say, “yes but this is all talking about Christ and His eternal throne!” BUT verse 14 clearly cannot be referring to Christ! “If he commits iniquity”?? This is God telling David, in verse 16, that David’s family lineage, his kingdom and his throne will be ETERNAL! Even if they are godless, idolatress, murders or what ever; because of His unwavering promise to David, God would chastise them if needed, but He would still pull them through in the end!
2Sa 7:11 “And even from the time that I commanded judges to be over My people of Israel, so will I cause you to rest from all your enemies. Also Jehovah tells you that He will make you a house. :12 And when your days are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall come out of your bowels. And I will make his kingdom sure. :13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. :14 I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the sons of men. :15 But My mercy shall not leave him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before you. :16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever. :17 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David.
David's Prayer of Gratitude
Now look at how David understood and gratefully and humbly responded to what God has just told him. Nine times David acknowledges God is speaking of his family line and eternally blessing his family line. Also verses 22 to 24 David acknowledges the eternal blessing on the nation of Israel!
2Sa 7:18 Then King David went in and sat before Jehovah. And he said, Who am I, O Lord Jehovah? And what is my house, that You have brought me here? :19 And this was yet a small thing in Your sight, O Lord God. But You have spoken also of Your servant's house for a great while to come. And is this the manner of men, O Lord God? :20 And what can David say more to You? For You, O Lord Jehovah, know Your servant. :21 For Your Word's sake, and according to Your own heart, You have done all these great things to make Your servant know. :22 Therefore You are great, O Jehovah God. For there is none like You, neither is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. :23 And what one nation in the earth is like Your people, like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to Himself, and to make Him a name, and to do for You great things and terrible, for Your land, before Your people, whom You redeemed to You from Egypt, from the nations and their gods? :24 For You have confirmed to Yourself Your people Israel to be a people to You forever. And You, Jehovah, have become their God. :25 And now, O Jehovah God, the word that You have spoken concerning Your servant, and concerning his house: establish it forever, and do as You have said. :26 And let Your name be magnified forever, saying, The Jehovah of Hosts is the God over Israel. And let the house of Your servant David be established before You. :27 For You, O Jehovah of Hosts, God of Israel, have revealed to Your servant, saying, I will build you a house. Therefore Your servant has found in his heart to pray this prayer to You. :28 And now, O Lord Jehovah, You are that God, and Your Words are true, and You have promised this goodness to Your servant. :29 Therefore, now, let it please You to bless the house of Your servant, to be forever before You. For You, O Lord Jehovah, have spoken. And with Your blessing let the house of Your servant be blessed forever.
Miscommunication?
It is only natural that we wonder wether or not Nathan correctly conveyed the message from the Lord, or perhaps did David misunderstand what Nathan said! Well let me tell a bit of Apostolic Church history from back around the 1920’s/30’s. My father grow up in the Apostolic Church, his father was a pillar in the church and an intercessor in the 1930’s and 40’s. The Apostolic Church in those days believed and operated in ‘the five-fold’ ministry, as in Ephesians 4:11-12. That is they functioned under the guidance of apostles, prophets, pasters, teachers and evangelists. Dad told me how the prophetic ministry worked in those days, and remember they only had ‘shorthand’, and no recording equipment. If the prophet spoke, then the message was taken down in shorthand. It was inturn typed up and a copy was posted off to The Apostolic Church World Headquarters Penygroes Wales. They would then compile all the prophecies and send a monthly copy out to all the Apostolic Churches worldwide. Each little church could then see that the Holy Spirit had given the same message, at the same time, to numerous Apostolic Churches in various countries around the world. There is your confirmation, “Throw the mouth of two or three witnesses!”
I also heard through two different sources, this story, that same sort of thing happened to a mufti. Jesus spoke to him in a dream or vision and told him words to this effect. “You are not speaking correctly about Me. Go to surah and surah and surah, then tell the people about Me!” The mufti sat on that massage for a short time until the Holy Spirit must have pushed him harder? Eventually the mufti told his people what he received. Amazingly about 28 muftis in that region all spoke the same massage that same day.
Charlie and The Penguin!
At this point I like to tell a cute little Joke about ‘Charlie and The Penguin!’ And I’ve heard that business-training groups use this as a lesson on communication skills.
Charlie and the Penguin
Charlie was the town drunk and he would often fall asleep on Saint Kilda beach Melbourne. He woke up one morning with a tiny Penguin that had crawled up under his jacket. Still hung over he said to the Penguin; “You look lost! I’ll take you to the Police station, they’re good friends of mine, they’ll know what to do with you!” So he tucks the Penguin under his arm and totters off to the Police station, and stands at the reception bench, happily tinkling the bell'.
Out comes Constable Collins and asks, “What have you found today Charlie?” Charlie answers proudly, “I have found a Penguin!!” Collins grins and says, “Well done Charlie, why don’t you take the Penguin to the Zoo?” Charlie delightedly replies, “Yeah! Great idea HOO ROO!” So Charlie wanders of to the Zoo with the Penguin under his arm.
Well that was about 10 am. And by about 4 pm. Collins has finished his shift and while driving home, he spots Charlie 6 hours later, wandering down the street with the Penguin still under his arm. Collins pulls over and calls out, “Charlie!” Charlie turns and says, “Oh ..high Osifher!” Collins exclaims “I thought I told you to take the Penguin to the Zoo!!”
Charlie with a big grin proudly answered, “I did; and tomorrow we’re going to the Movies!”
Did David Understand The Message Correctly?
Now put this Penguin joke in the context of David’s response to God! David answers God, quit clearly understanding God means that his family line will last FOR EVER! Lots of wonderful Christians claim that this whole passage refers to Christ.
Firstly: - As I said above the passage says, “If he commits iniquity….”; So, that CAN NOT be talking about Jesus!
Secondly: - If God did mean it would only be fulfilled through Jesus; then don’t you think God would have had the courtesy to explain things better to David? But NO God’s message to David was clear and sold, no questions asked!
Lets go to Part 4: - Confirmation in Prophecy Of David’s Continuous Royal Line. Matt 18:16 “…that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.”
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 4:
Confirmation in Prophecy Of David’s Continuous Royal Line
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel demanded God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally David comes to power. Part 3 we focused on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’, and the promise of an everlasting family lineage of David to rule over Israel. BUT Israel will be permanently moved to a new location?
Aim
In Part 4 I would like to search through the scriptures to see if we can find Confirmation from God through the prophets that He has given ample proof that the promises to David have been maintained and confirmed in scripture.
Confirmation
Remember Jesus said in Matt 18:16 “…that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.” That statement is also in Deu 17:6, Deu 19:15, 2Co 13:1, 1Ti 5:19 and Heb 10:28. So according to scripture, we are entitled to demand proof of this staggering promise to David, which is in both 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 17. And God does give us ample proof in several scriptures. Let’s look for them. Here are 15 passages that I have found, there are probably many more. I found them by doing a word search using words like; “throne, forever, David, Israel” and combinations of them. You can look them up at you leisure to get the full picture as to why some of them came about. I have tried to shorten most of them to one line, but you will still get the drift.
1Ch 22:10 “And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.
1Ki 2:33 but upon David, and upon his seed, …his house, …his throne, shall there be peace for ever from the LORD.
1Ki 2:45 And king Solomon shall be blessed, and the throne of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.
2Ch 6:16 Your servant David …There shall not fail you a man in My sight to sit on the throne of Israel, if only…
2Ch 7:18 I have covenanted with David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man to be ruler in Israel.
2Ch 13:5 the God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David forever, to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?
2Ch 21:7 ..covenant that he had made with David, and as he promised to give a light to him and to his sons for ever.
Psa 89:3 I have sworn to David My servant ..Your seed will I establish forever ..build up your throne to all generations.
Psa 132:11 Jehovah has sworn to David in truth; ..Of the fruit of your body I will set on the throne for you.
Psa 132:12 If your sons will keep My covenant and My testimonies …their sons shall also sit on your throne forever.
Jer 33:17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; :26 then I will cast away the seed of Jacob, and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will bring back their captivity, and have mercy on them.
As I said there are probably a lot more verses that you could think of. But we wanted the conformation with, “two or three witnesses” or more! These passages above pretty well confirm the amazing promises to David in 2 Samuel 7. But thousands of people scoff at these ideas: -
Well you have a few options??
Question
Time
There are obviously enough scripture to support the promises to David. We can search for more scriptures if you like. I have left some time here for open Q & A. Are there any questions?
Let’s go to Part 5: - The Decline Of David’s Line
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 5:
The Decline Of David’s Line
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel ‘Demanded’ God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally how David comes to power. Part 3 we focused on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’, and the promise of an everlasting family lineage of David to rule over Israel. BUT Israel will be permanently moved to a new location? Part 4 we did a quick search for scriptural conformation of the promises to David.
Aim
I want to look at the slow down fall of David’s family line. And try to answer the age-old argument “But the throne of David Doesn’t exist ANY MORE!”
The Decline Of David’s Line
I have put these passages in just to show that God would correct the royal line of David if they ‘stepped over the mark’. As God said above in 2Sa 7:14 “I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the sons of men.” Here is just a hand full of times when God stepped in! You can go to these verses yourself and look at the history and the lead up to the downfall of David’s throne.
2Sa 12:7 “And Nathan said to David, You are the man! So says Jehovah, the God of Israel, I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul.:13 And David said to Nathan, I have sinned against Jehovah. And Nathan said to David, Jehovah also has put away your sin; you shall not die.:15 And Nathan left to go to his house. And Jehovah struck the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and it was very sick.” Eventually the child died.
Jer 22:30 “So says Jehovah, Write this man down as childless, a man who will not be blessed in his days. For no man of his seed shall be blessed, sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah.”
Jer 29:16 “so says Jehovah of the king who sits on the throne of David, and of all the people who dwell in this city, and of your brothers who have not gone out with you into captivity; :17 so says Jehovah of Hosts: Behold, I will send on them the sword, the famine, and the plague, and will make them like worthless figs which cannot be eaten from badness.”
Jer 36:30 “Therefore so says Jehovah of Jehoiakim king of Judah: He shall have no one to sit on the throne of David. And his dead body shall be cast out in the day to the heat, and in the night to the frost.”
There are many more like these, ‘Write this man down as childless”? God severs the family line and transfers the throne to another member of the royal line of David, because the corruption of the reigning king has finally become intolerable! Ultimately we know from biblical history that Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians. The temple was destroyed, which we know from history! At the same time in history, the family line of David was ended! (Or most think that is so!). Let’s look at some scriptures.
The Last Davidic King in Jerusalem
It happened in 686 BC. From a timeline point of view you can go to, e-Sword/Graphics Viewer/Timelines/Chart 14: 690 570BC. The right half of the chart has a wealth of information. It shows the three groups carried away to Babylon, the dates and the last male line of David, King Zedekiah. Also the chart shows the group that took Jeremiah and fled to Egypt. Let’s read some scriptures about all that.
Jeremiah 52:5 “So the city was under attack until the eleventh year of king Zedekiah. :6 And in the fourth month, in the ninth of the month, the famine was very grievous in the city, so that there was no bread for the people of the land. :7 And the city was broken up, and all the men of war fled and went forth out of the city by night by the way of the gate between the two walls, which was by the king's garden. (And the Chaldeans lay around the city all around.) And they went by the way of the plain. :8 But the army of the Chaldeans pursued the king and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. And all his army was scattered from him. :9 And they took the king and carried him up to the king of Babylon, to Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he gave judgments against him. :10 And the king of Babylon killed the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes. He also killed all the rulers of Judah in Riblah. :11 And he blinded the eyes of Zedekiah. And the king of Babylon bound him in chains, and carried him to Babylon, and put him in prison till the day of his death.”
Well the last king on the throne of David is dead! And all his sons where put to death in front of him, then he was carried away and died in prison! Therefore most people say surly the line of David is finished? No because there is still a family line on the bases of an OLD Mosaic Law found in the book of Numbers chapter 27. So who is the heir to the throne?
Jer 43:4 “So Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the commanders of the forces, and all the people, did not obey the voice of Jehovah to live in the land of Judah. :5 But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the commanders of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah who had returned from all the nations (where they had been driven) to dwell in the land of Judah; :6 men, and women, and children, and the king's daughters, and every person that Nebuzaradan the chief of the executioners had left with Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet, and Baruch the son of Neriah. :7 So they came into the land of Egypt, for they did not obey the voice of JehovahORD. So they came to Tahpanhes.” [NB: - “JehovahORD”?? ..that must be a funny ‘TyPo’ in eSword]
So, the king's daughters were still alive and were carried off to Egypt along with Jeremiah and Baruch, Baruch was Jeremiah scribe. And you can be quite sure that Jeremiah would know how to maintain the royal line of David if there was a legitimate way for it to come about. After all we know from 2 Kings chapter 11 that queen Athaliah ruled in Israel for some years until she got the cop! So a Queen on the throne was legitimate. And if Jeremiah didn’t know some legal loophole, then I’m sure God would have told him how to solve the problem. But there already was an OLD Mosaic Law that perfectly suited the situation! It cropped up because of a situation back before Israel entered the Promised Land. You can refer to Numbers chapter 27 and have a read.
The short story is a bloke by the name of Zelophehad died during the 40 years in the wilderness. He hand no sons but five daughters. These girls fronted up to Moses and others and presented their case! Verse 4 “Why should the name of our father be taken away from among his family, because he has no son? Therefore give us a possession among the brothers of our father. :5 “And Moses brought their cause before Jehovah. :6 And Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying, :7 The daughters of Zelophehad speak right. You shall surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brothers. …:8 And you shall speak to the sons of Israel, saying, When a man dies, and has no son, then you shall cause his inheritance to pass to his daughter. etc. etc.” We have a classic case of Probate here! The King is dead; and there are no surviving sons! Who inherits “the estate”? The Kings daughter! If that’s the case then what happened to the Kings daughter?
What Happened To The Throne Of David?
I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard this sort of phrase; “The Throne Of David Doesn’t Exist Any More!” If people say that, with all those promises to David’s family line listed above; then they must be really “GAME” people! Because they are virtually saying, “God is a Liar!” Or “God is impotent and can’t achieve what He says He’s going to do!” Or they think God is stupid and He sends out His angels with stupid instruction, like when He sent Gabriel to Mary to tell her she is going to give birth to the Christ. And Gabriel said in, Luke 1:32 “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:” Then those scoffers laugh and say, “BUT The Throne Of David Doesn’t Exist Any More!” Those sorts of people are about as smart as Ananias and Sapphira of Acts chapter 5.
At this point we have to switch over to “legions”. I know what you are thinking; “WHAT! Legions? I thought this was a bible study?” Well we do know that Nebuchadnezzar with his army came to Egypt and destroyed it. Jer 43:8-13. And in all of that passage, there is no written record of Jeremiah, Baruch or the king's daughters, so what happened to them? Well to answer that question, let’s go to Part 6: - British Israel Becomes A Faith Message
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 6:
British Israel Becomes A Faith Message
Revision
In Part 1, I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2, we saw that Israel ‘Demanded’ God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally how David comes to power. Part 3, we focused on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’, and the promise of an everlasting family lineage of David to rule over Israel. BUT Israel will be permanently moved to a new location? Part 4, we did a quick search for scriptural conformation of the promises to David. Part 5 we looked at The Decline Of David’s Line.
Aim
I hope you will stay with me as we explore Myths, Legends, Prophecies and the Internet. To try to find some breadcrumb trail that God may have left us in order to guess at where the throne of David could be today.
At this point in scripture we have NO HARD evidence in scripture or history to say definitively, “This is what happened to the daughters!” So this British Israel message then has to go by faith. And it really is a faith message in the same way as the salvation message is accepted by faith. You come to the Lord Jesus Christ by faith and accept that your sins are forgiven, then something deep inside of you melts and you crumble in the presents of Christ. Why? You have NO HARD evidence but you know that you know you know! You are saved, BY FAITH in Jesus Christ! So what happened to the daughters? I believe BY FAITH that God has kept His promises to David and somewhere in the world one of the girls continued the royal line. And GOD must have given us some kind of breadcrumb trial in scripture to show us He knew the end from the beginning, or vice-versa.
Myths Legend Prophecies and Faith
Ok so we are clutching at straws now. We know from scripture that God would NOT permit the line of David to fail! We know from scripture that the line must continue through the Kings daughters! And if so then what breadcrumb trail can we find in myths, legend, prophecies, scriptures or history, to piece together what God MIGHT have done? Have you ever heard the phrase, ‘where there is smoke there is fire’? Then Myths are much the same. You couldn’t come up with the story or legend, unless there was some idea or ‘seed’ to grow the Myth to become the legend? Do a deep dive into some of the Old English nursery rhymes, ‘Ring a Ring a Rosy’ and others etc. And you will find that those nursery rhymes have some basic of truth hidden in time. So lets just look at some of the myths and legends and then look at some prophecies to see if we can fug up a feasible scenario.
Myth
The story goes something like this, or if you like; “Once upon a Time in a Land Far Far away the Kingdom of Judah fell and the Babylonians slaughtered king Zedekiah and his entire male lineage. Jeremiah and the kings’ daughters were safely carried away by force to Egypt under the command of Johanan the military leader of the remnant of all Judah. Miraculously Jeremiah escaped by ship to Ireland with the daughters and ‘the stone of destiny’! There were numerous Israelite colonies and trading post throughout the Mediterranean which had been established as far back as King Solomon, refer 2Ch 9:21 “the ships of Tarshish”. On reaching Ireland Jeremiah presented the kings’ daughter, Tea Tephi to the Irish King Eochaidh II. They fell in love! And were happily married and had a son Irial I. From then on all the kings’ coronations were conducted in the presents of, ‘the stone of destiny’. Thus blessing the continuation of the royal line of David forever and ever. And the kingdom ‘lived happily ever after’.” Ha ha ha! You might well laugh, but I did say it was a myth. And are there perhaps some legends that it might be based upon?
Legend
You can then turn to legends and there are a host of articles you can search through the likes of: - Did The Prophet Jeremiah Go To Ireland or Jeremiah And The Stone Of Destiny or Tea Tephi in the bible or Exploration Mysteries Tea Tephi. Or Tea Tephi Queen of Ireland! Some are very interesting and informative. Some are just trying to poke fun at what they call, “British Iraelisum”! And anyone who calls that understanding an, ‘isum’ is derogatively inferring it is a religion. That’s like speaking of, ‘evolutionisum’! [And even my auto-spell check doesn’t recognize that!] All British Israel believers that I know are committed Christians who believe in our Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! And that God made outstanding promises to David and the Nation of Israel and those promises MUST be fulfilled in the world somewhere somehow! Anyway I’ll get off my soapbox. The point being is some of these links will make reference to other links and you can have a field day clicking through from site to site and find more and more bread-crumbs! Which in turn help to substantiate the ‘Myth!
Scriptures
So this brings us back to searching through the scriptures. Lets see what we can find.
The Tender Twig
You might find this whole chapter is quit revealing. It speaks of two great eagles. And you may recall in Revelation chapter 12 verse 14 “And two wings of a great eagle were given to the woman, so that she might fly into the wilderness? WOW! And I have spoken of this in another talk entitled, REVELATION - What Might God DO Next. I suggested that the woman was Israel, ALL 12 Tribes! The Northern Kingdom moving into the wilderness, was the British Isles recently vacated by the Romans, leaving all the Roman roads and the infrastructure etc. ready for the early Britains to occupy. Example “the appointed place”! 2Sa 7:10 “And I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them so that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more.” Have a read of this whole chapter in Ezekiel 17. I have divided it into three sections. God in his typical rhyming way, Makes a Statement! Then He goes into why He has done it. Then He goes back to His original statement and elaborates. I will give you some notes with my thoughts as we read.
Section 1
Eze 17:1 “And the Word of Jehovah came to me, saying, :2 Son of man, put out a riddle and speak a parable to the house of Israel. [We need to stop hear and have a GOOD Think! The House of Israel is the northern kingdom! Ezekiel is writing in about the time of 580 BC! In 720 BC, about 140 years earlier the house of Israel became the Lost 10 Tribes! Refer 2Ki 17:23 "So Israel was carried away out of their own land to Assyria until this day.” So Ezekiel is told to write to this bunch of people, (house of Israel), and tell them about the fall of the line of David in the Southern kingdom of Judah! Why?] Verse:3 And say, So says the Lord Jehovah: A great eagle with great wings, long of pinion, full of feathers, who had different colors, came to Lebanon and took the highest branch of the cedar. [the cedars of Lebanon is symbolic of the royal line of David] Verse :4 He plucked off the top of its young twigs and carried it into a land of traders. He set it in a city of merchants. :5 He also took of the seed of the land and planted it in a fruitful field. He placed it by great waters and set it as a willow tree. [“by GREAT Waters”, has to be a reference to a sea and the British Isles were referred to as the "Tin Islands" or a place for traders]. Verse: 6 “And it grew and became a spreading low vine, whose branches turned toward him. And its roots were under him. So it became a vine and brought out branches and shot out boughs.” [‘Shot out boughs’, could be an inference ‘branching out into colonies’]
Section 2
God’s Account of The Kings Treachery
Refer to Ezekiel chapter 17 verses 7 to 21 below. You can read this second section if you like, but it is a brief summary of the treachery of King Zedekiah for despising the oath that Nebuchadnezzar made him take in the name of Jehovah, refer 2Ch 36:13. So God wiped the slate of the Kingdom in the location of Judah altogether! In the last verses it says it all, Eze 17:21 “And all his fugitives with all his bands shall fall by the sword, and those who remain shall be scattered toward all winds. And you shall know that I Jehovah have spoken.”
Eze 17:7 “There was also another great eagle with great wings and many feathers. And behold, this vine bent its roots toward him and shot out its branches toward him, that he might water it, away from the beds of its planting. :8 It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring out branches, and that it might bear fruit, to be a splendid vine. :9 Say, So says the Lord Jehovah: Shall it prosper? Shall he not pull up its roots and cut off its fruit, and wither it? All the leaves of its sprouting shall wither, and not with great arm, nor by many people shall any raise it by its roots. :10 And behold, being planted, shall it prosper? Shall it not utterly wither when the east wind touches it? It shall wither in the beds where it sprouted. :11 And the Word of Jehovah came to me, saying, :12 Say now to the rebellious house: Do you not know what these things mean? Tell them, Behold, the king of Babylon has come to Jerusalem and has taken its king and its rulers, and brings them to himself to Babylon. :13 And he has taken of the king's seed and has made a covenant with him, and has taken an oath from him. He has also taken the mighty of the land, :14 so that the kingdom might be low, that it might not lift itself up, but that by keeping his covenant it might stand. :15 But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt, to give him horses and many people. Shall he be blessed? Shall he who does such things escape? Or shall he break the covenant and be delivered? :16 As I live, says the Lord Jehovah, surely in the place of the king who made him king, whose oath he despised and whose covenant he broke, even with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die. :17 Nor shall Pharaoh with his mighty army and great company work for him in the war, by pouring out siege mounds and building forts, to cut off many persons. :18 And he has despised the oath by breaking the covenant. And, behold, he had given his hand, and has done all these, he shall not escape. :19 Therefore so says the Lord Jehovah: As I live, surely My oath that he has despised, and My covenant that he has broken, I will even repay it on his own head. :20 And I will spread My net on him, and he shall be taken in My snare, and I will bring him to Babylon, and I will judge him there with his sin which he has sinned against Me. :21 And all his fugitives with all his bands shall fall by the sword, and those who remain shall be scattered toward all winds. And you shall know that I Jehovah have spoken.
Section 3
Eze 17:22 “So says the Lord Jehovah: I, even I, will also take of the top of the highest cedar and will set it; I will crop off from the first of its young twigs a tender one, and will plant it on a high and lofty mountain.” [young tender twig? Symbolic of a female of the line of the ‘cedar’] [And ‘a mountain of Israel’ is symbolic of a part of the Northern Kingdom of Israel] Verse :23 “In a mountain, in a high place of Israel, I will plant it. And it shall bear boughs, and bear fruit, and be a majestic cedar. And under it shall dwell every bird of every wing; in the shadow of its branches they shall dwell. :24 And all the trees of the field shall know that I Jehovah have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish. I Jehovah have spoken and acted.”
The symbolism of the two trees is speaking of two
Kingdoms. The Kingdom of Judah, ‘the high, green tree’. And the Kingdom of the
Lost Ten Tribes scattered north then west from the Caucasus Mountains, i.e. The
low dry tree’. There is a really good book entitled: - The
Post Captivity Names of Israel. And it will shed a ‘SEARCH LIGHT’ on a vast
wealth of information on “who’s who” in the world and where they came from. And
it will help to explain all of this Lost Ten Tribe business. I suggest you get
a copy.
OVERTURN OVERTURN OVERTURN
First off the MKJV which says “Ruin, ruin, ruin”, doesn’t supply the meaning as does the KJV.
Eze 21:26-27 “So says the Lord Jehovah: Remove the diadem, and take off the crown. This shall not be as it was. Lift up the low one, and put down the high one. :27 Ruin, ruin, ruin, I will appoint it. Also this shall not be until the coming of Him whose is the right. And I will give it to Him.” Now the KJV. Eze 21:26-27 KJV 26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. 27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.”
If we look at the line of David as being transferred to Ireland, then what is the meaning of, “overturn, overturn, overturn"? Well the throne was removed from Judah and went to Ireland, then it was transferred by Fergus 1 to Scotland. Then the throne was transferred to England via King James VI of Scotland who became James I of England at the death of Elizabeth I. So? Well the throne was overturned and went to Ireland, overturned and went to Scotland, then overturned and went to England! That sort of fits the prophecy quite well!
The Pillar Or ‘Stone of Destiny’?
The Stone of Destiny also know as the Stone of Scone, or also known as An Lia Fàil. Those links are like Myths and legends, now let’s look at scripture. I have collected a list of commentary notes using eSword, and most of them are in reference to the passage in 2 Kings chapter 11 verse 14. It is also in 2Ch 23:13. The story is about the young seven-year-old surviving true prince of Israel, Joash the son of Ahaziah. He was hidden for seven years. When he was crowned king there is the mention of a “pillar”! WHAT was it? I have underlined some parts of their notes to bring out some key points. These notes give us some interesting thoughts. Or are these references to the ‘Stone of Destiny’? You be the judge.
CN from Pulpit on 2Ki 11:14 “And when
she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar; rather, on
the pillar, or on the raised platform. The
king’s proper place in the temple seems to have been a raised standing-place (הָעַמּוּד,
from עָמֹד,
to stand)” ….[Also in Pulpit this is in reference to Genesis 28:20 re
Jacob]
"If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go …
so that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the Lord be
my God; and this stone, which I have set for a pillar,”
CN by Keil & Delitzsch on 2 Kings 11:4-20 “The עַמּוּד, upon which the king stood, was not a pillar, but an elevated standing-place”
CN by John Gill on 2 Kings 11:14 “Of kings, when they came into the temple on any occasion, civil or religious, therefore it is called his pillar, 2Ch 23:13, ..according to Jacob Leo (f), this was the royal throne in the court of the Israelites, near the high or upper gate, on a marble pillar, where the kings of the house of David sat,”
CN by Matthew Henry on 2 Kings 11:13-16 “She saw the king's place by the pillar possessed by one to whom the princes and people did homage”
CN by Joseph Benson on 2 Kings 11:14 “Behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was — It is generally supposed that the royal throne was erected near one of the pillars,”
CN by Cambridge Bible on 2 Kings 11:14 “stood by a [R.V. the] pillar] By this word is clearly designated some spot which was the special position of the king on such occasions.”
CN by Adam Clarke on 2 Kings 11:14 “The king stood by a pillar - Stood On a pillar or tribunal; the place or throne on which they were accustomed to put the kings when they proclaimed them.”
CN by Albert Barnes on 2 Kings 11:14 “By a pillar - Rather, “upon the pillar” probably a sort of stand, or pulpit, raised on a pillar.”
CN from Expositor’s Bible on 2 Kings 22:1-23:37 “Thereupon the king summoned to the Temple a great assembly of priests, prophets, and all the people, and, standing by the pillar (or "on the platform") in the entrance of the inner court,”
Whatever this ‘pillar’ was it was an important and crucial part of the process for the coronation of the kings of Israel. Without that ‘pillar’ the king perhaps may note be a legitimate king? So when Jeremiah escaped with the king’s daughters’, did he also grab that ‘pillar’ and kart it off to Egypt. Then later transport it to Ireland?
Faith
I said at the start of this Part 6, “British Israel becomes a faith message”. You can search through dozens of books, chronicles and web sites and all the information is so far back in history that people just seem to ‘fob’ it off as, out of date, irrelevant or ancient history. So we can’t seem to be able to find any hard evidence. Look up Isaiah 54:8 and Ezekiel 39:23. It makes you wonder what God meant when He says, ‘He will hide His face from Israel’? I think He means He will sever physical or obvious contact with Israel and just watch over us at a distance. Finally after all this, I hope you can now see that although I have NO hard evidence, there seems to be enough bread crumbs to feed the five thousand.
You can only accept this by faith. And if someone wants to laugh at you about it, then so be it! But you could in turn ask them, “How do you make sense of when Gabriel said to Mary, God shall give unto Him the throne of His father David?” Then you could say, If the throne of David cessed to exist as of Zedekiah, refer Jer 52:10-11. Then Gabriel was an idiot to tell Mary; in Luke 1:32 “And the Lord God shall give Him the throne of His father David.”
Let’s go on to a slightly different subject. In Part 7: - Melchizedek And Jesus. We search through the scripture to find any reference comparing Melchizedek and Jesus. Then we look at Just the gospels to see what the world was expecting to see happen during the time Christ was on earth.
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 7:
Melchizedek And Jesus
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel ‘Demanded’ God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally how David comes to power. Part 3 we focused on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’, and the promise of an everlasting family lineage of David to rule over Israel. BUT Israel will be permanently moved to a new location? Part 4 we did a quick search for scriptural conformation of the promises to David. Part 5 we looked at The Decline Of David’s Line. Part 6 we investigated why the belief in the continued royal line of David ‘Becomes A Faith Message’
Aim
I want to search through the scriptures to find any reference comparing Melchizedek and Jesus. Then a quick search of the scriptures and any prophecies referring to the time Christ was on earth, just to see what the world knew of Him during the thirty years He was here.
The
Order of Melchizedek
Melchisedec is a very interesting bloke, as you can see his name has two different spellings, depending on what version of the bible your reading; and if you are in the Old or New Testament? For example he is ‘Melchizedek’ in MKJV in both Old and New Testament? He is also ‘Melchizedek’ in the KJV OldT’? BUT he is ‘Melchisedec’ in the KJV NewT’? And I haven’t even bothered with all the other 50 or more translations I have on eSword! So tip-toe through the bible carefully when looking for him. He is also very interesting because he first appears in Geneses chapter 14, then the apostle Paul makes reference to him in Hebrews chapters 5, 6 and 7 as a type and shadow of Christ. Let’s check him out.
Gen 14:18 “And Melchizedek the king of SalemH8004 brought forth bread and wine. And he was the priest of the most high God. :19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of Heaven and earth. :20 And blessed be the most high God, who has delivered your enemies into your hand. And he gave him tithes of all.” The key point of interest is that word Salem. From Strong’s word number, “H8004; שָׁלֵם; shâlêm; shaw-lame'; From Strong’s “The same as H8003; peaceful; Shalem, an early name of Jerusalem: - Salem.” So Melchizedek was BOTH king and High Priest of the most high God! Which foreshadows the role that Christ will fulfil at his Second Advent as King of this earth, and He will reign from Jerusalem, (Salem), and he is already fulfilling the role as eternal High Priest now in heaven, which we will look into later!
King And High Priest
The duel roll of both king and
high priest was not uncommon in many ancient cultures. If you look up King
and Priest cultures, Google will tell us of various cultures, both ancient
and recent. It speaks of, ‘king-priests of ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia and the
Indus Valley’. You can find king-priests in Assyrian,
Babylonian, Medo-Persian and in some periods of the Greek and Roman
cultures. All of these cultures the Israelites and Jews were familia with. But
it was never allowed or accepted in the nation of Israel. So it is interesting
that there are prophesies in the bible that speak of Israel having a
King-Priest in the future. Just a thought, England split from the Church of
Rome? The Pope is Head of the Church of Rome? England established their King as
Head of the Church of England? Well if the British Israel belief is correct,
the throne of England is the throne of David? Then when Christ returns He will
take that throne, correct? Which would be the fulfilment of Luke 1:32. He will
then enrich or elevate the existing title of 'King and Head of the Church' to
“King and High Priest! I think that is quite interesting!
Melchizedek is also mentioned in
Psalm 110:1 “A Psalm of David. Jehovah said to my Lord, Sit at My
right hand until I place Your enemies as Your footstool. :2 Jehovah shall
send the rod of Your strength out of Zion; rule in the midst of Your
enemies. :3 Your people shall be willing in the day of Your power, in holy
adornment from the womb of the morning: You have the dew of Your youth. :4
Jehovah has sworn, and will not repent, You are a priest forever after
the order of Melchizedek. :5 The Lord at Your right hand shall
strike through kings in the day of His wrath.” NB the wording at the start; ‘Jehovah
said to my Lord’, or in other translations, ‘The Lord said to My Lord’.
It is a classic verse that most commentaries speak of being Jehovah God
speaking to Messiah Christ! Let’s check a few commentaries.
[CN from C.S. Scofield on Psalms 110:1] “(2) This Psalm announces the eternal priesthood of Messiah--one of the most important statements of Scripture (Psa 110:4).”
[CN from TSK on Psalms 110:1] “am
2962, B.C. 1042 (Title), This Psalm was probably composed by David after
Nathan's prophetic address; and, from the grandeur of the subject and the
sublimity of the expressions, it is evident that it can only refer, as the
ancient Jews fully acknowledged, to the royal dignity, priesthood,
victories, and triumphs of the MESSIAH.”
[CN from ‘The Pulpit Commentary’ on Psa 110:4] “The Lord hath sworn, and he will not repent. "A fresh revelation" (Cheyne). David, admitted into the councils of the Most High, has been made aware that the Messiah is, by God’s decree, to be both King and Priest. God has "sworn" this, and will certainly not draw back from his oath. Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek. Not, like ordinary priests, a priest for a few years, or for a lifetime, but a priest forever and ever (לעולם)—seeing "he ever liveth to make intercession for us" (Heb 7:25). And a priest "after the order of Melchizedek." Not, that is, after the order of Aaron, who was a priest and nothing more, but after that of Melchizedek, the elder priesthood, which combined the offices of priest and king (see Heb 5:6-10; Heb 7:1-10, Heb 7:20-28).”
Prophecies Of Christ From Just The Gospels
Let’s look to see if there were any prophesies about Christ mentioned or eluded to in just the gospels. To see if they would give us a rough idea of what the world expected to see happen at that time in history. And it was world wide because the ‘wise men’ from the east picked up on something from the stares! Therefore this was external to the close nit Jewish world. So God was making His announcement world wide in the stares for all to see if they had eyes to see. What the sign in the stars was; is still to this day a subject of speculation? But it is only mentioned in Matthew, I’ll brief it down; you can look it up for details, and we will just skim through the rest of the scriptures.
Matthew 2:1 “..in the days of Herod the..wise men came ..to Jerusalem, :2 saying, Where is He who is born king of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east...”! So Herod gathers his cronies, he demanded where Christ should be born. They quoted Micah 5:2 and said in Mat 2:6 "And you, Bethlehem, in ..Judah, ..For out of you shall come a Governor who shall rule My people Israel." So the information was there in the prophets. Also there was a timeline for them in the book of Daniel chapter 9:24, the Seventy weeks! So the whole of the priesthood should have known when Christ was to appear. [Summary King and Rulership]
Christ’s Conception Announced
Gabriel’s Announcement: - Briefly Gabriel told Mary she is the one! Refer Luke 1:31 “..You shall conceive ..bear a son ..call His name JESUS. :32 He shall be great ..Son of the Highest. And the Lord God shall give Him the throne of His father David. :33 And He shall reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there shall be no end." [Summary everlasting Kingship over House of Jacob/Israel from the throne of David!]
Joseph Mary’s Husband To Be:- Joseph had to be told that all was ok. Mat 1:20 “..the angel of the Lord appeared ..saying, Joseph, ..For that in her is fathered of the Holy Spirit. :21 ..you shall call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins. :22 ..spoken of the LORD by the prophet, saying, :23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.”
[Summary Jesus is saviour also God with Us!]
Mary and Elizabeth: - In Luke 1:39-56 we have Mary and Elizabeth meeting with a joyful praise and worship time! [Summary No major prophetic announcements]
Christ’s Birth
The Shepherds In The Field: - Luke 2:11 “For to you is born today, in the city of David, a Savior, ..Christ the Lord.”
Jesus Presented At The Temple: - in Luke 2:25 “And behold ..Simeon. :27 ..he came by the Spirit into the temple ..as the parents brought in the child Jesus..:28 ..he received Him in his arms and blessed God, and said, :30 For my eyes have seen Your Salvation :32 a light for revelation to the nations, and the glory of Your people Israel. :34 And Simeon blessed ..and said to Mary ..this One is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel, and for a sign spoken against :35 (yea, a sword shall pierce through your own soul also), so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.”
Anna The Prophetess: - Luk 2:36 “..a prophetess, Anna …:38 And she coming in at that instant gave thanks to the Lord and spoke of Him to all those in Jerusalem eagerly expecting redemption.”
[Summary Jesus the Savior, A light to the Nation, He is the glory of Israel, and of a revealing.]
So far we have some glorious things prophesied about Jesus but the key things I’m looking for are those regarding His kingship. And we have only found them in Matthew 2 and Luke 1. And except for when Jesus was 12 years old, He seemed to live a life of obscurity until His baptism at 30 years of age.
John Baptist Know and Expected To See The Messiah
Joh 1:35 “..John stood with two of his disciples. :36 And looking upon Jesus as He walked, he says, Behold the Lamb of God"! So John was given the revelation as to Christ’s role! The two disciples of John followed Jesus. One of them, Andrew, went to get his brother Simon Peter's and said in John 1:41 “..We have found the Messiah (which is, being translated, the Christ).”
[Summary John received revelation Jesus was the Christ and Lamb of God; and Andrew accepted that and ran with it!]
Messengers from John the Baptist
In Matthew 11, John was in prison, he sent two of his disciples to ask Jesus, ‘Are you the one or do we look for another?’
Mat 11:4 “Jesus answered and said to them, Go and tell John again those things which you hear and see: :5 the blind receive their sight, and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear; the dead are raised, and the poor have the gospel proclaimed to them.” Jesus was effectively telling John that the Messiah was to be identified by these ‘signs’! And that Jesus was fulfilling them as prophesied in Isa 29:18, Isa 30:4-6, Isa 35:4-6, Isa 61:1-2, Eze 36:1-38 and Eze 37:1-28; just to name a few!
[Summary Jesus was the fulfilment of the role of the Messiah at the right time and the right place!]
Caiaphas The High Priest’s Prophecy
This is very interesting because it shows that God can even use an evil High Priest to achieve what God wants done!
John 11:49 “And one of them, Caiaphas, being the high priest of that year, said to them, You do not know anything at all, :50 nor do you consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation perish. :51 And he did not speak this of himself, but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for the nation;”
In summery ‘the prophecies of Christ from just the gospels’ haven’t given me the results I was looking for, namely His role as King and High Priest? There are probably some others that I haven’t found and if you can think of some please let me know in the comments thanks so that I can update this article for you. If we now can go to Part 8: - The Eternal Role Of Christ, we can hunt through the scriptures se what He will be doing during the Revelation, the Millennium and through to eternity. Then I’ll give you my short conclusion to tie all eight lesions together.
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 8:
The Eternal Role Of Christ
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel ‘Demanded’ God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally how David comes to power. Part 3 we focused on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’, and the promise of an everlasting family lineage of David to rule over Israel. BUT Israel will be permanently moved to a new location? Part 4 we did a quick search for scriptural conformation of the promises to David. Part 5 we looked at The Decline Of David’s Line. Part 6 we investigated why the belief in the continued royal line of David ‘Becomes A Faith Message’. Part 7 we looked at the comparison of Melchizedek and Jesus. Then searched scriptures just to see what the world knew of Jesus during the thirty years He was here.
Aim
We will look again at Melchizedek and Christ’s “Once and for all sacrifice”! Then search the scriptures to find out what would be the role of Jesus Christ during the millennium and into eternity. Then we will come to our conclusion.
Jesus High Priest and King
For more about Melchizedek we can go to Hebrews. Paul speaks at length all through Hebrews building a mental picture for us of the perfection of Christ and His supreme sacrifice culminating with chapter 10 “Christ's Sacrifice Once for All”. It is a lengthy read but when was the last time you read through the whole of Hebrews? Get yourself a cupper and put it on audio for 10-15 minutes.
Some highlights are, Paul speaks of the priesthood office of Aaron then shows the higher priesthood role of Christ starting in Hebrews 4:15 “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.” Then in Hebrews 5:5 “So also Christ did not glorify Himself to be made a high priest, but He who said to Him, "You are My Son, today I have begotten You." :6 As He says also in another place, "You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." :7 For Jesus, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong cryings and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared, :8 though being a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. :9 And being perfected, He became the Author of eternal salvation to all those who obey Him, :10 being called by God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek;” Paul also makes similar comparison references of Jesus to Melchizedek in Hebrews chapter 6 through to chapter 7.
Paul speaks of the perfection required of the priesthood and that Christ has achieved that perfection. In that Christ has entered into the hole of holies in heaven itself and offered His own blood on the alter in heaven. Hebrews 10:10 “By this will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. :12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God, :13 from then on expecting until His enemies are made His footstool. :14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.”
Therefore Christ’s role as High Priest is now finished! It is the fulfilment of Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are decreed as to your people and as to your holy city, to finish the transgression and to make an end of sins, and to make atonement for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy.” As I said Christ’s role as High Priest is effectively finished or completed and it is now eternally ongoing. So lets look at His role as King!
The Eternal Kingship Of Jesus
God confirms His covenant with Christ that He would have an everlasting kingship in several passages; let’s look at a few.
Isaiah 9:6 “For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. :7 There is no end of the increase of His government and peace on the throne of David, and on His kingdom, to order it and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on, even forever. The zeal of Jehovah of Hosts will do this.”
Isa 16:5 “And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle (or it’s the house) of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.”
Isa 22:22 “And the key of the house of David I will lay on his
shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none
shall open. :23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure
place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.”
Jer 23:5 “Behold, the days
come, says Jehovah, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch,
and a King shall reign and act wisely, and shall do judgment and justice
in the earth. :6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell
safely. And this is His name by which He shall be called, JEHOVAH, OUR
RIGHTEOUSNESS.”
Jer 33:14 “Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will establish the good thing which I have spoken to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. :15 In those days, and at that time, I will cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up to David. And He shall do judgment and righteousness in the land. :16 In those days Judah shall be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely. And this is the name with which she shall be called, JEHOVAH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”
Eze 34:22 “therefore I will
save My flock, and they shall no more be a prey. And I will judge between lamb
and lamb. :23 And I will set up one Shepherd over them, and He shall feed
them, My servant David. He shall feed them, and He shall be their
Shepherd. :24 And I Jehovah will be their God, and My servant David
a ruler among them. I Jehovah have spoken.”
Jesus as King and High Priest in the Revelation
We have a couple of different lines of thought we need to address. Do we believe in the pre-tribulation rapture or do we go straight into the Second Advent? This is really important if we read Revelation chapter 20 verses 4-5 shown below! Because in verse 4 it speaks of all those who went through the Great tribulation, and they are those who are seated on thrones, and they rule and reign with Christ during the thousand years! The “CLINCHER” is, they are called THE FIRST RESURRECTION! So how can we have a pre-tribulation rapture; which includes the died in Christ being raised; and that ‘rapture’ happens seven years before the first resurrection! Personally I believe we go straight into the Second Advent! I have done a few different talks on this subject if you’re interested: - IS There A RAPTURE? Anyway lets look at Revelation.
We can skip through the various verses starting with revelation chapter 5, John is in the throne room of God and the Lamb receives the sealed book/scrolled. Rev 5:9 “And they sang ..You are worthy to take the book and to open its seals, for You were slain and ..redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every ..nation. :10 And You made us kings and priests to our God, and we will reign over the earth. :11 And I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels ..:12 saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.” So Christ the ‘Lamb’ is worthy!
Rev 11:15 “And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever.”
Rev 12:5 “And she bore a son, a male, who
is going to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her child
was caught up to God and to His
throne.” Then Satan was kicked out of heaven; Rev 12:10 “And I heard a
great voice saying in Heaven, Now has come the salvation and power and
the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ…”
Rev 17:14 “These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them. For He is Lord of lords and King of kings. And those with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones.”
Rev 19:11 “And I saw Heaven
opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called
Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war. :15 And
out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike
the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron.
..:16 And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD
OF LORDS.”
The Thousand Years Reign Of Christ
Revelation chapter 20 gives us a very clear and brief agenda as to what happens during the 1000 years. Rev 20:1 “..an angel ..having the key of the bottomless pit ..:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, ..serpent, ..the Devil, ..Satan, and bound him a thousand years, :3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, ..that he should deceive the nations no more ..till the thousand years ..be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Then the start of the millennial kingdom is established! Rev 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. :5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. :6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.” During the thousand years Christ RULES with a rod if iron. The whole world must live in harmony and come to worship annually, OR pay the penalty! As in Zechariah chapter 14 verses 17-18. But after a thousand years of life without Satan meddling in thing, the thousand years is finished. Then even after a thousand years of possible plenty, people by the millions still chose to rebel and side with Satan! Then as in Rev 20:4 above, ‘Satan must be loosed a little season’. Then in only 4 verses there is a very short war and Satan is cast into the lake of fire forever and ever.
The Great White Throne
Eternity starts; Revelation 20 verses 11-15 describe this scene. But what Kingship part does Christ play in this picture? If you read through it you will find ALL, ‘great and small’ are raised and come before God the father! Rev 20:15 “And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.” So Jesus is your Defence Attorney with His lamb’s book of life as His Affidavit on your behalf!
Christ’s Role Into Eternity
For Christ’s role through eternity we can pick out the key phrases and list them here below then summarize at the end.
Rev 21:6 KJV “And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.”
Rev 21:9 “And one of the
seven angels who had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues came to me
and talked with me, saying, Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb's
wife.” [That’s us; we are Lamb’s wife]
Rev 21:22 KJV “And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” [Partnership between God and the Lamb]
Rev 21:23 “And the city had
no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they might shine in it, for the glory
of God illuminated it, and its lamp is the Lamb.” [Again
Partnership between God and the Lamb]
Rev 22:1 “And he showed me a pure river of
Water of Life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God
and of the Lamb.” [Again Partnership, joint rule from the
same throne of God and the Lamb]
Rev 22:3 “And every curse will no longer be;
but the throne of God and of the
Lamb will be in it, and His servants will serve Him.” [Again, joint
rule from the same throne of God and the Lamb. And we serve Him]
Rev 22:13 KJV “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the
first and the last.”
Rev 22:16 KJV “I
Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I
am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.”
Summing Up
You can see from that last verse that Christ brought David into existence and became the ‘offspring of David’, a full circle! Also we see that God and the Lamb, (Christ), are joint partners throughout eternity. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Conclusion
It has been a lengthy study and I hope you have enjoyed it, and I am glad you have stayed with me to the end. I have tried to make it as interesting and entertaining as can be reasonable. We can see that God started with Abram, renamed him to Abraham, gave him a huge block of land and blessed him with a son and heir, Isaac. From whom God produced a nation and a company of nations. Then He established a kingdom and a royal family line, which would last for Eternity!
As Jesus has said in Revelation
21:6 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.” And in Revelation 22:16 “I am the root and the offspring of David,”
Jesus was involved with the whole plan from beginning to end! And with Him in
charge there was NO Way the plan could fail!
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