British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 3:
God Tells David His Long-Term BIG PLAN
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 2: - Israel DEMANDS A King!
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 3: - God Tells David His Long Term BIG PLAN
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 4: - Confirmation in Prophecy Of David’s Continuous Royal Line
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 5: - The Decline Of David’s Line
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 6: - British Israel Becomes A Faith Message
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 7: - Melchizedek And Jesus
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 8: - The Eternal Role Of Christ
British Israel - David’s Royal Line Parts 1-8
Revision
In Part 1 I looked at the covenant promise to Abraham of an everlasting throne and royal line from his seed, and the Promised Land. Part 2 we saw that Israel demanded of God to give them a king, with first Saul the ‘rotten egg', and then finally David comes to power.
Aim
In Part 3 I want to focus on what I called ‘God’s BIG Plan’. Then look at the promise of an everlasting kingdom and an everlasting descendant of David to rule on that kingdom.
God’s Chat With David
David had his ups and downs but God pulled him through it all until David had no more enemies to subdue, he’s bored! So he came up with this bright idea to build a temple for the Lord. This whole chapter in 2 Samuel chapter 7 could be likened to a visionary door opening for David. God opens up to David the ‘Long Term BIG PLAN’ that He has for Both Israel the nation and for David’s family line. The same account of this is recorded in 1Ch 17 almost word for word, so that constitutes being on recorded twice.
How did it start?
2Sa 7:1 “And it happened when the king dwelt in his house, and when Jehovah had given him rest round about from all his enemies, :2 the king said to Nathan the prophet, See now, I live in a house of cedar, but the ark of God dwells within curtains. :3 And Nathan said to the king, Go, do all that is in your heart, for Jehovah is with you.”
God Asks ‘Have I Ever Needed A Temple?
2Sa 7:4 “And that night the Word of Jehovah came to Nathan saying, :5 Go and tell My servant David, So says Jehovah, Shall you build Me a house for My dwelling? :6 For I have not dwelt in a house since the day that I brought up the sons of Israel out of Egypt until this day, but have walked in a tent, even in a tabernacle. :7 In all places in which I have walked with all the sons of Israel, did I speak a word with any of the tribes of Israel, those I commanded to feed My people Israel, saying, Why do you not build Me a house of cedars?”
God Told David ‘I Have Been Watching You’
2Sa 7:8 “And now so shall you say to My servant David, So says Jehovah of Hosts: I took you from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people, over Israel. :9 And I was with you wherever you went, and have cut off all your enemies out of your sight, and have made you a great name like the name of the great ones in the earth.”
God’s Future Plan For The Nation
Now this is really quite weird, and most people NEVER really catch onto it, or fully understand it! Look at it from David’s point of view: He is king over ALL Israel; And Israel is IN “The Promised Land”; And every kingdom around about his kingdom are paying him tribute! Then God says He is going to move Israel and they will NEVER come back to this location? Read this a few time until that sinks in!
2Sa 7:10 “And I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them so that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more. Neither shall the sons of wickedness afflict them any more, as before.” Let’s put that into some simple plain language. What is God actually saying? “I will appoint a place for My people Israel”, aren’t they already in the promised land? Now God is saying He has another place for His people Israel. “and will plant them”, so God is the one who is going to plant them in this new location! That they may dwell in a place of their own? A new land that they can call their own land! “And move no more”? So they will NEVER come back to the land of Israel?
God’s BIG PLAN For David
David’s Eternal House, (i.e., Family Line), And The Eternal Throne. Take note of verse 14! Most people skim over all of this chapter and say, “yes but this is all talking about Christ and His eternal throne!” BUT verse 14 clearly cannot be referring to Christ! “If he commits iniquity”?? This is God telling David, in verse 16, that David’s family lineage, his kingdom and his throne will be ETERNAL! Even if they are godless, idolatress, murders or what ever; because of His unwavering promise to David, God would chastise them if needed, but He would still pull them through in the end!
2Sa 7:11 “And even from the time that I commanded judges to be over My people of Israel, so will I cause you to rest from all your enemies. Also Jehovah tells you that He will make you a house. :12 And when your days are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall come out of your bowels. And I will make his kingdom sure. :13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. :14 I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the sons of men. :15 But My mercy shall not leave him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before you. :16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever. :17 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David.
David's Prayer of Gratitude
Now look at how David understood and gratefully and humbly responded to what God has just told him. Nine times David acknowledges God is speaking of his family line and eternally blessing his family line. Also verses 22 to 24 David acknowledges the eternal blessing on the nation of Israel!
2Sa 7:18 Then King David went in and sat before Jehovah. And he said, Who am I, O Lord Jehovah? And what is my house, that You have brought me here? :19 And this was yet a small thing in Your sight, O Lord God. But You have spoken also of Your servant's house for a great while to come. And is this the manner of men, O Lord God? :20 And what can David say more to You? For You, O Lord Jehovah, know Your servant. :21 For Your Word's sake, and according to Your own heart, You have done all these great things to make Your servant know. :22 Therefore You are great, O Jehovah God. For there is none like You, neither is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. :23 And what one nation in the earth is like Your people, like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to Himself, and to make Him a name, and to do for You great things and terrible, for Your land, before Your people, whom You redeemed to You from Egypt, from the nations and their gods? :24 For You have confirmed to Yourself Your people Israel to be a people to You forever. And You, Jehovah, have become their God. :25 And now, O Jehovah God, the word that You have spoken concerning Your servant, and concerning his house: establish it forever, and do as You have said. :26 And let Your name be magnified forever, saying, The Jehovah of Hosts is the God over Israel. And let the house of Your servant David be established before You. :27 For You, O Jehovah of Hosts, God of Israel, have revealed to Your servant, saying, I will build you a house. Therefore Your servant has found in his heart to pray this prayer to You. :28 And now, O Lord Jehovah, You are that God, and Your Words are true, and You have promised this goodness to Your servant. :29 Therefore, now, let it please You to bless the house of Your servant, to be forever before You. For You, O Lord Jehovah, have spoken. And with Your blessing let the house of Your servant be blessed forever.
Miscommunication?
It is only natural that we wonder wether or not Nathan correctly conveyed the message from the Lord, or perhaps did David misunderstand what Nathan said! Well let me tell a bit of Apostolic Church history from back around the 1920’s/30’s. My father grow up in the Apostolic Church, his father was a pillar in the church and an intercessor in the 1930’s and 40’s. The Apostolic Church in those days believed and operated in ‘the five-fold’ ministry, as in Ephesians 4:11-12. That is they functioned under the guidance of apostles, prophets, pasters, teachers and evangelists. Dad told me how the prophetic ministry worked in those days, and remember they only had ‘shorthand’, and no recording equipment. If the prophet spoke, then the message was taken down in shorthand. It was inturn typed up and a copy was posted off to The Apostolic Church World Headquarters Penygroes Wales. They would then compile all the prophecies and send a monthly copy out to all the Apostolic Churches worldwide. Each little church could then see that the Holy Spirit had given the same message, at the same time, to numerous Apostolic Churches in various countries around the world. There is your confirmation, “Throw the mouth of two or three witnesses!”
I also heard through two different sources, this story, that same sort of thing happened to a mufti. Jesus spoke to him in a dream or vision and told him words to this effect. “You are not speaking correctly about Me. Go to surah and surah and surah, then tell the people about Me!” The mufti sat on that massage for a short time until the Holy Spirit must have pushed him harder? Eventually the mufti told his people what he received. Amazingly about 28 muftis in that region all spoke the same massage that same day.
Charlie and The Penguin!
At this point I like to tell a cute little Joke about ‘Charlie and The Penguin!’ And I’ve heard that business-training groups use this as a lesson on communication skills.
Charlie and the Penguin
Charlie was the town drunk and he would often fall asleep on Saint Kilda beach Melbourne. He woke up one morning with a tiny Penguin that had crawled up under his jacket. Still hung over he said to the Penguin; “You look lost! I’ll take you to the Police station, they’re good friends of mine, they’ll know what to do with you!” So he tucks the Penguin under his arm and totters off to the Police station, and stands at the reception bench, happily tinkling the bell'.
Out comes Constable Collins and asks, “What have you found today Charlie?” Charlie answers proudly, “I have found a Penguin!!” Collins grins and says, “Well done Charlie, why don’t you take the Penguin to the Zoo?” Charlie delightedly replies, “Yeah! Great idea HOO ROO!” So Charlie wanders of to the Zoo with the Penguin under his arm.
Well that was about 10 am. And by about 4 pm. Collins has finished his shift and while driving home, he spots Charlie 6 hours later, wandering down the street with the Penguin still under his arm. Collins pulls over and calls out, “Charlie!” Charlie turns and says, “Oh ..high Osifher!” Collins exclaims “I thought I told you to take the Penguin to the Zoo!!”
Charlie with a big grin proudly answered, “I did; and tomorrow we’re going to the Movies!”
Did David Understand The Message Correctly?
Now put this Penguin joke in the context of David’s response to God! David answers God, quit clearly understanding God means that his family line will last FOR EVER! Lots of wonderful Christians claim that this whole passage refers to Christ.
Firstly: - As I said above the passage says, “If he commits iniquity….”; So, that CAN NOT be talking about Jesus!
Secondly: - If God did mean it would only be fulfilled through Jesus; then don’t you think God would have had the courtesy to explain things better to David? But NO God’s message to David was clear and sold, no questions asked!
Lets go to Part 4; British Israel - David’s Royal Line Part 4: - Confirmation in Prophecy Of David’s Continuous Royal Line. Matt 18:16 “…that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.”
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