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Introduction
When God speaks to us in prophecy
He sometimes uses a ‘strange’ way to express the period of time involved. It is
known by the phrase, “A Day For A Year”. It is explained in two scriptures,
Ezekiel 4:6 and Numbers 14:34. But some people can find this confusing.
Aim
In this talk I hope to clear up some of the confusion related to the well know prophecies in Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation and others and in particular those related to end times events.
Reason
I remember the Cuban Missile crises, and for years I have
seen many Christians go into panic when the latest ‘world shattering’ event
hits the news. Modern day Christians are living in fear! Yet God has given us
the tools by which we should be able to live in assurance. Amos 3:7 “For the
Lord Jehovah will do nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants
the prophets.” The tools He has given us are the prophecies. So if we know
and understand prophecy we will not live in fear of the unexpected.
References & Equipment
WEBA=Bible references are from MKJV or KJV unless noted. Some are from
the World English Bible with Apocrypha, (WEBA).
WH =Classic Time line of World History by Sebastian Adam [based
on Ussher’s ‘Annals of the World’] (9m wall chart)
HCC =History of The Christian Church (by Philip Schaff) via
e-Sword 1882 Edition. [Phrases underlined for ease of cross-reference.]
HYY =History Year by Year (by Dorling Kindersley Ltd)
WP =Wikipedia
CN =e-Sword Commentary Notes by “NAME” on Bible Ref “BOOK CH:
verse” e.g. [ref CN Clark on Dan 7:7].
EN =Microsoft Encyclopaedia Encarta
2006. with reference word to be used, e.g. [ref EN i.e. Protestantism]
EB =Encyclopædia Britannica 1999 Edition, with reference
word to be used, e.g. [“Jewish Revolt, FIRST”]
UD =Dated using James Ussher’s dates ‘The Annals of the World’
The Day for A Year ‘Code’
Can any of you remember the “Ten Code”? It was commonly used
on the ‘CB’, Commercial Band Radio in the 70’s and 80’s? You would hear phrases
like, “10-4” or “what’s your 10-20?” It wasn’t much of a code as such
because anyone could get a list of the ‘Ten Code’ phrases from any CB Radio
enthusiast magazines. Then get into the usage of the ‘lingo’; listen in to the
CB Radio with ‘Code’ in hand, then suddenly you can talk in ‘Ten Code’ with any
“good-buddy” trucker like a natural. Well Gods ‘A Day For A Year’ system
is no different. He gives us the, ‘magazines’, i.e. scriptures to study up on.
Then He gives us various examples and explanations to practice up on. Then
‘Bob’s you’re uncle’, the understanding of it comes natural. Lets examine the
scriptures referred to above in the introduction.
Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6
In these two scriptures God
states quite clearly His ‘Code’ so to speak. It is the basic reference for
converting Prophetic Time, (PT) into Literal Time, (LT). It’s
quite straightforward and as stated earlier it is simply, “a day for a
year”.
Num 14:34 “According to the
number of the days in which you searched the land, forty days, each day
for a year …” Eze 4:5 “For I have laid on you the years of their
iniquity, according to the number of days: three hundred and ninety days. And
you shall bear the house of Israel's iniquity. v:6 And when you complete them,
even lie on your right side, the second. And you shall bear the house of
Judah's iniquity forty days; a day for a year. I have set it for
you, a day for a year.”
Why Doesn’t God Use Literal Time For Large Numbers?
Prophecies using literal time,
usually only cover short periods. Why? I asked the Lord about this and He
reminded me of an old 1962 movie, ‘The 300 Spartans’, staring Richard Egan as a
King in Sparta. In the movie the King asked a messenger about the size of the
vast Persian army coming against them. The messenger answered, “I counted until
I ran out of numbers!” Large numbers were not an easy thing to keep
track of in biblical times. You may recall seeing documentaries about genuine
‘out back’ Bedouin, counting livestock. They would sift a hand full of wheat,
and would drop on to a sheet one grain of wheat or such per animal as they
passed. Then put it all in a bag and give it to the master and say ‘here is the
count’. If the master had 5 bags last year, and 15 this year, he has had a good
year. It was like a proportionate way of keeping track of large quantities.
Back in biblical times it was defiantly a “paperless society”!
The Lord gave my darling wife a
passage to remind me of another example. Remember when God gave Abraham an idea
of the size of his future lineage. Gen 15:5 “And He brought him outside and
said, Look now toward the heavens and count the stars, if you are able to
count them. And He said to him, So shall your seed be.” It is the same
principal, large numbers were not in familiar use, and many people were
illiterate. For example are you familiar with the very large number called a ‘Googol’?
[Ref. WP Googol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia].
We don’t bother with trying to ‘count’ it out in the usual vernacular; we just
call it a Googol. So one could say God ‘invented’ the idea of ‘a day for a
year’ so that smaller phrases like “seventy weeks” or “forty two months” could
be remembered, then converted to literal time. And like I said at the start it
was like a ‘code’ with which only the Hebrew were familiar. To any other ethnic
group, phrases like ‘seventy weeks’ or ‘forty two months’ etc would be
meaningless.
How And When Do We Apply The Day For A Year ‘Code’
God uses terms the likes of, “hours,
days, weeks, months, seasons, time and times” to express periods of time
which we refer to as Prophetic Time (PT). To which we must apply the
‘code’ of “a day for a year” to calculate Literal Time
(LT). That gives us the number of literal years that God is talking
about in the prophecy. If we don’t do that, then we will come up with some bizarre
short prophecies. For example everyone knows the ‘Seventy Weeks’ prophecy,
which is recognised as 490 literal years. Dan. 9:24, Gabriel explains the
prophecy to Daniel, in which he was talking about the future restoration of
Jerusalem, the rebuilding of the Temple and that Messiah would appear at the completion
of the 69th week. If we take the ‘seventy weeks’ literally, that
comes to only a bit over 16 months. With all the activity Gabriel described it
would be pretty ridiculous to expect every thing to happen in a literal 16
months! It would mean that Christ would already be about 28 years old when
Daniel received the prophecy.
NB: God only uses
the word “year” to state literal periods of time in prophecy. There is
one odd occasion in Revelation were the word year in a ‘Prolonged’ form,
is used as Prophetic Time. I have listed it below under the heading,
“Exceptions to The Rule”. When a prophecy is stated as so many “years” we don’t
need to apply the ‘code’ of “a day for a year”! It’s already in Literal Time.
I discovered this when I was trying to find prophecies with the word
“year”. Does that sound confusing? Well let’s talk about the Literal YEAR
first.
Literal Time The ‘YEAR’
Can you recall any prophecies
that are actually stated in literal time of any sort? I did a search using
‘e-Sword’, for any generic version of “year”. It included yearling, yearn etc.
It gave me over 900 verses to sift through! Then I looked only for when the
word ‘year’ was used in the prediction of a period of time. Most are quite
short periods of time but they are ALL Literal, [Strong’s word
No. H8141. which simply means a year].
Some other literal times were expressed in days, months or years. But
usually in the context of these passages below it is obvious that literal time
is meant. For example when God gave David three choices of punishment,
obviously literal time was meant. 2Sa 24:13 and 1Ch 21:12 “.. seven years
of famine…flee three months before your enemies..Or..three
days' plague..”
The prophecies regarding the
exile to Babylon for seventy years are amongst the odd few of any long
periods using Literal Time. Here are some I found. 2Ch 36:21 ..the Word of Jehovah..until the land had
enjoyed its Sabbaths…to the full measure of seventy years. Jer 25:11
“..shall serve..Babylon seventy years.” Jer 25:12 “..when seventy
years are fulfilled..” Jer 29:10 “..When according to My Word seventy
years have been fulfilled..” These were the same passages Daniel was
referring to when he said in, Dan 9:2 “..I, Daniel, understood the number of
the years by books, which came of the Word of Jehovah to Jeremiah the
prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the
desolations of Jerusalem.” So Daniel
realised it was a literal seventy years
I have listed below all the
passages I could find in which a period of time is prophesied using the word
‘year or years’. Most are in KJV because that’s the version from which I did
the search. I don’t expect you to read all of them, it’s quite laborious, but I
don’t wont you to just take my word for it.
I have reduced them to one line per verse so that you can see at a
glance the interpretation is obviously in literal time. I have grouped
together the odd few that seem to have a different interpretation for the usual
expressions of time. See “Exceptions to the Rules”, below.
‘YEAR’ Interpreted As Literal Time in Prophecy
Gen 15:13 And he said unto Abram,
Know …they shall afflict them four hundred years;
Gen 17:21 “… Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at
this set time in the next year.”
Gen 41:26 Joseph interpreted
Pharaohs dream, “..seven good cows are seven years…”
Exo 23:29 I will not drive them
out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the
field
Num 32:11 Surely none of the men
that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land…
Num 14:34 & Num 32:13 ye
searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye
bear your iniquities, even forty years..
Eze 4:6 thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I
have appointed thee each day for a year.
In both of these scriptures
God is stating his ‘day for a year’ rule but He is still talking in literal
years to be fulfilled.
1Ki 17:1 Elijah prophesied there
would be no rain, “..there shall not be dew nor rain these years, except
according to my word.”
1Ki 20:22 ...at the return of the year the king of
Syria will come up against thee.
2Ki 8:1 Then spake Elisha unto the woman…for the LORD hath called for a
famine; and it shall also come upon the land seven years.
2Ki 19:29 And this shall be a sign unto thee, Ye shall
eat this year..in
the second year..and
in the third year
sow ye, and reap,
2Ki 20:6 And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will
deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria..
Isa 7:8 … and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not
a people.
Isa 16:14 & Isa 21:16 ...Within a year, according to the years of a hireling, all the glory of
Kedar shall fail;
Isa 20:3 And Jehovah said, Just as
My servant Isaiah has walked naked and barefoot three years, a sign and
wonder…
Isa 23:15 Isa 23:17 …Tyre shall
be forgotten seventy years,
according to the days of one king: after..seventy years shall Tyre…
Isa 32:10 Many days and years shall ye be troubled,
ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come.
Isa 37:30 ..Ye shall eat this year…the second year..in the third
year sow ye,
and reap, and plant vineyards, and eat the fruit thereof
Isa 38:5 Go, and say to Hezekiah,
Thus saith the LORD…I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days
fifteen years.
Isa 61:2 To proclaim the
acceptable year
of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
Jer 28:3 and Jer 28:11 “Within two
full years will
I bring again into this place all the vessels..” NOT of God yet still literal!
Jer 28:16 Therefore thus saith
the LORD; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die…
Jer 51:46 ..a rumour shall both
come one year,
and after that in another year
shall come a rumour, and violence in the land…
Eze 29:11 No foot of man shall
pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be
inhabited forty years.
Eze 29:12 And I will make the
land of Egypt desolate…her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be
desolate forty years
…
Eze 29:13 Yet thus saith the Lord
GOD; At the end of forty years
will I gather the Egyptians…
Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in
the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the
weapons…seven years
Dan 9:2 I Daniel understood…the
number of the years
…the LORD…would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
Dan 11:6 “And in the end of years they shall join
themselves together;” Still literal, it simple means ‘after many years time’
Dan 11:8 And shall also carry
captives into Egypt … and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.
Dan 11:13 For the king of the
north shall return…and shall certainly come after certain years with a great
army and with much riches.
Joe 2:2 A day of darkness…a great
people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like…even to the years of many
generations.
In the New Testament the word for
a Literal year is Strong’s “G2094 - et'-os -Apparently a primary word; a year:
- year.”
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable
year of the
Lord. [In this Jesus is quoting from Isa. 61:2 in which year is word no.
H8141 = a year]
Luk 13:7-8 …Behold, these three years I come seeking
fruit on this fig tree…let it alone this year also … [see
‘Exceptions’ below]
Act 7:6 And God spake on this
wise…that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four
hundred years.
Act 13:20 And after that he gave
unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel
the prophet.
Gal 4:10 You observe days, and
months, and times, and years. [ref CN Barnes on Gal 4:10] meaning a sabbatical year
= literal
Rev 20:2-7 And he laid hold on
the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand
years,
Revelation - Prophetic Time
All Time periods in
Revelation use the terms “hours, days, months, seasons, time and times”; along
with the odd one in Rev 9:15 ‘year’, which we explained above. They all should
be interpreted using the ‘code’ of “a day for a year”! For the simple reason
given in Mal 3:6 “For I am Jehovah, I change not”, and Heb 13:8 “Jesus Christ
the same yesterday and today and forever.” God does not change the way He does
things. So if God uses the terms “hours, days, weeks, months, seasons, time and
times” in conjunction with His quirky ‘code’ in the Old Testament, there is
really no good reason to think He is using the same terms to mean
literal time in the New Testament.
So people who read Revelation,
see the terms, “time, times and half a time” or “forty two
months” or “1260 days”, and take them as a literal 3 ½
years. Well firstly they have NO scriptural bases for doing so. And
secondly a literal 3 ½ years comes to a total of 1277 literal days. Thirdly,
John was told that the Revelation was going to start happening REAL SOON,
“shortly come to pass”, “the time is at hand”! So if the periods of time in
Revelation were taken as literal, they only cover a minuscule period at the
tail end of the last 1900 years? That view is called The Futurist system
and it was presented to the church in relatively recent years, in the 1600’s.
[ref HCC vol.1 ch.12:101]
To accept this view would mean
that God has deliberately left the whole world in the dark without any guiding
prophecy over the passed 1900 years. That is totally out of character for God!
He has never left His people without prophetic vision to show His plan for
them. If we apply ‘a day for a year’ to the Prophetic Time periods in
Revelation, we find that the vision given to John covers a large proportion of
our post Calvary history. When we apply the same symbolism as in the Old
Testament we find God has given us ample guidance and vision.
Splitting of Prophecies?
Daniels seventieth week is the
classic example of a prophecy being split into two parts. Such as 69 weeks and
the 70th week is for some mystical reason off in the distant future.
It makes no sense what so ever! Refer Daniel chapter 9:25-27, and please
read it carefully and try a few different translations. KJV Dan 9:25 “unto
the Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks, and
sixty-two weeks..” (=69 weeks). The ESV uses the wording “to the coming of
an anointed one” In other words Messiah shall appear after or at the end of the
69th week. Then verse 26 “And after sixty-two weeks, (meaning
the total of 69 weeks is finished), Messiah shall be cut off.” When was
Messiah cut off? After the 69th week…doesn’t that mean
Messiah was cut of some time in the 70th week? By that logic if Messiah
is not cut off until the 70th week; And The
Seventieth Week Is Still Yet To Happen! Then Christ has not been
crucified yet? Can you see the fault with the idea of putting the 70th
week off into the future?
Don’t you think Gabriel would
have mad it very clear that the last week was some 2600 years off in the
future? Lets say for the sake of argument that the seventieth week is
off in the future somewhere. Just imagine heaven is like that TV show
“The Apprentice”, and Gabriel walks in and says to God, “I’ve just fully
explained to Daniel about the Seventy Weeks.”
God would say, “NO! You didn’t make it crystal clear
that the last week is off in the distant future! ..YOU’RE FIRED!” Gabriel
would hand in his wings, and front up to the camera crew ‘off stage’ and
complain, “I said what I was told to say! It wasn’t in my job description to
add details!”
If the teaching of Futurism, as
mentioned above, had not been introduced in the 1600’s then the splitting of
prophecies would not have happened. There is another prophecy that people
split, but I don’t think that they are aware of it. In Dan 2. Nebuchadnezzar
dreamed of a statue, and God gave Daniel the interpretation. The two legs
of iron were the Roman Empire, the Eastern and Western Empires. They
were followed by the feet of iron and clay. Historically the ten toes
were the medieval Ten Kingdoms of Europe. The Futurist view claims the Ten
Kings are still in the future. If Futurism is correct, then God really
slipped up badly when He gave Daniel the interpretation! We are not in the
Roman Empire now! We are not in the Ten Kingdoms YET! See it makes no sense.
But Daniel chapter 2 cannot be split because it shows quite clearly the
continuity of history. Yet the Futurists ignore that Dan 2 is a guide to
interpreting all other prophecies.
There is nothing in Daniel
chapter 9 to indicate it should be split into two separate events. No other
prophecies have ever been interpreted that way! If we go along with the
idea that we could split prophecies on the bases of the wording, then lets try
some others! In this same prophecy the 69 weeks is in two parts, 7 weeks and 62
making 69 weeks. Why don’t we split them? What about Dan 7, Dan 12 and Rev 12 we
have the, “time, times and half a time”! You could have a field day with all of
them by splitting them into three separate events. Or depending on what version
we read, in Rev 11:2, and 13:5 “forty and two months”. There is
no precedent for splitting any prophecy.
Hours, Days, Weeks, Months, Seasons, Time And Times
So what are these phrases or
units of Prophetic Time (PT) that God uses? We will briefly cover each unit
individually and how they have come into being. Remember the simple rule a day
= a year (LT).
HOUR – Now this is
a curly one, because the hour was either a 12th or a 24th
part of a day. [Ref CN Barnes on Rev. 9:15]. So if we work on a 12th
of a day (PT), that is a 12th of a year (LT) =
1 month (LT). Or if we use a 24th of a day (PT), that
= one 24th of a year (LT) = ½ a month (LT) = 15 days (LT)
DAY -- the day (PT), is as above one
prophetic day equals one literal year. As per Num 14:34. the ‘forty days
(PT) = 40 years (LT).
WEEK -- A week (PT) is logically 7 day (PT), which
come out 7 years (LT).
MONTH -- Lets first
talk about the month and why is it 30 days. Firstly the Hebrew Calendar is a
Lunar based system. You can search this out via the Internet. May I suggest
[WP Lunar
month - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]. “The average length
of the synodic month is 29.530589 days. Thus it is convenient if months are in
general alternately 29 and 30 days”. So twelve Lunar months would come to some
odd number like 354.367 days. In the secular world we us the solar year which
is 365¼ days! So the Hebrew Calendar has a 30-day month, and
slowly drifts behind the solar year. Then every few years they add in the
additional month of Adar. Hence Adar I and Adar II.
Others might refer to Genesis and
the story of Noah. Gen 7:11 “In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second
month, in the seventeenth day of the month, in this day all the
fountains of the great deep were broken up… Gen 8:3 And the waters returned
from off the earth continually. And after the end of the hundred and
fifty days the waters had gone down. Gen 8:4 And in the seventh
month, on the seventeenth day of the month, the ark rested upon the
mountains of Ararat.”
Do the ‘maths’! The 17th
of the 2nd month to 17th of the 7th month
equals exactly 5 months =150 days = 30 days per month!
SEASON -- A season (PT) is
again logically three months (PT), which comes to 90 days (PT), which
comes out to 90 years (LT)
TIME and TIMES.
The phrase ‘Times’ in Hebrew plural means twice Time. [ref CN
Gill para 5 on Dan 7:25]. So a Time in (PT) is equal to 360 days
(PT), which come down to 360 years (LT). So the old favourite “a time, times
and half a time = 1260 years (LT)
Lets Just Work Through The Bible
Some prophecies are a combination
of units; lets just work through the bible systematically by the prophetic
words used. I have also hunted through the Apocrypha and found some prophetic
references. If I have missed any, by all means please let me know.
Hours
99 per cent of the time the word ‘hour’ is used in a literal
sense. But only in Revelation there are the odd few that sound as though they
should be interpreted as prophetic. I’ll give you my thoughts on each verse.
Rev 8:1”And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was
silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.” Possibly prophetic, but it
would only come out to something ridiculously short like 15 or 7 literal days
of silence, meaning ‘peace on earth’.
Rev 9:15 “..four angels…prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
the third part of men.” Go to the bottom of these notes; see ‘Exceptions To The
Rule’. Basically because the rest of the verse is prophetic, then the ‘hour’
must also be prophetic.
Rev 17:12 “And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings,
who have received no kingdom yet, but will receive authority as kings one hour with the
beast.” This one is interesting! [ref CN Barnes and Clarke on Rev 17:12]. ‘one
hour’ could mean, ‘at one and the same time’.
Rev 18:10; 17; 19
“…Woe to the great city, Babylon, that strong city! For in one hour your
judgment came...v:17 For in one hour such great riches was desolated…
v:19…For in one hour
she was ruined.” There are three options for interpretation here. If taken as
literal we would expect something like a nuclear blast in one literal hour. The
historic interpretation claims this to be fulfilled during the revolutionary
days when the Pope, (the head of the Babylonian system), was taken prisoner by Napoleon’s
General Berthier. Or during the 1936 to 1940’s onslaught of the Anarchist in
Spain, Nazism and Communism that tore the Church of Rome apart. I go with the
second option because the prophecy starts with, ‘Woe to the great city,
Babylon’, indicating one location.
Days
Last Days -- We find
phrases like, “in the last days”, “in the later days” or “later years”. Refer,
Gen 49:1, Num 24:14, Isa 2:2, Jer 23:20, Eze 38:8 and many others. It can
easily be interpreted as later years (LT). But by the context of each passage
we can see it is referring to a period of time of some, ‘many years’ off in the
future, and generally in reference to the lead up to the second coming of
Christ. It can also be interpreted as the past 2000 years, refer to the section
below, ‘Exceptions To The Rule’, “The Long Day”
Those Days -- Another
couple of catch phrases, “After those days” and “After many days”. Again by
the context we can work out the period of years to which God is referring.
Generally it is in reference to Christ’s ministry.
Jer 31:33 ..the covenant that I will make with the
house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in
their...hearts…
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the
handmaids in those days
will I pour out my spirit.
Eze 38:8 “After many days thou shalt be visited: in the
latter years
thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword..” This is a
double reference. First the appearance of Christ, ‘shalt be visited’. Then
‘shalt come into the land’ the return of the Jews to Israel.
In The Day or In That Day -- If you do a
search for these two phrases you get about 230 references all up. But these few
all refer to ‘The great and terrible day of the Lord’! It is the battle of
Armageddon and the restoration after it during the millennium. Isaiah and
Zechariah have dozens of them. And here are a few more you can check for me
please and tell me if I am wrong. Psa 110:3 Nah 2:3, Zep 1:18, Zep 2:3, Mal
4:3, Mat 10:15, Mat 11:24, Mat 12:36, Mar 6:11, Luk 17:30, Rom 2:16, 1Co 5:5,
2Co 1:14, Php 2:16, 1Jn 4:17
The following are obvious
references to a prophetic time period.
Dan 8:14 “… Unto two thousand and three hundred days;
then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”, I believe this is 2300 years (LT). [ref
CN Clark on Dan 8:14], [ref CN ‘TSK’ on Dan 8:14] and [ref CN Meyer on Dan
8:14]
Dan 11:20 “Then shall stand up in
his estate a raiser of taxes…within few days he shall be destroyed…” Possibly
meaning a few years
Dan 12:11 “from..daily sacrifice..and..desolating
abomination set up, a thousand two hundred and ninety days”. See below
Dan 12:12 “Blessed is he that..cometh to the thousand three
hundred and thirty-five days.” See notes below.
Hos 3:3 - 4 “For the children of
Israel shall abide many days without a king,…a prince,…a sacrifice,…an image,…an
ephod, and without teraphim:” Many is not a specific number, so many days
or years is simply a LONG time. Again the context gives the meaning.
Rev 2:10 “Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer:
behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and
ye shall have tribulation ten days.” This is the ten years (LT), known as the severest
persecution under Emperor Diocletian, 303 to 313 AD. [ref EN , “Diocletian's
reign is especially remembered, however, for the renewed persecution of
Christians”]
Rev 11:3 “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and
they shall prophesy a thousand, two hundred and sixty days, clothed in
sackcloth.” This would be 1260 years (LT) that the true witnesses of the gospel
were under the persecution of Papal rule. For centuries anyone who opposed the
Church of Rome was butchered or burnt at the stake. [ref HCC vol.6 ch.7:60,
“The last case of an execution by the Spanish Inquisition was a schoolmaster,
Cayetano Ripoll, July 26, 1826”]. Also you can Google “The 1260 years of Papal Supremacy. - Bible Light”.
The Popes power ended in 1798 when the Pope was take prisoner by Napoleon’s
General Berthier. Consider
the passage in Dan 7:25 “And he shall speak words against the Most High, and
shall wear out the saints…they shall be given into his hand until “a time and
times and one-half time”, which is the 1260 years that the Papacy ruled
Supreme.
Rev 11:9 - 11 “And they..shall
see their dead bodies three days and a half,” That equates to 3 ½ day
= 3 ½ years (LT). You can refer to my talk entitled “CHURCH
HISTORY Part 3 - Who Were The Reformers”. Or [ref CN Gill on Rev 11:3],[ref CN
Meyer on Rev 11:1-13]
Rev 12:6 “And the woman fled…they
should feed her there a thousand, two hundred and sixty days.” That is
1260 years (LT). My take on this passage is. (1) The woman is NOT the church as
many would say. If she was the church, then you are saying that the church
Produced Christ? That is Nonsense! Go back and look at her description; she
is Israel the wife of Jehovah. It is through Israel that Christ came. (2) The
portion of Israel that ‘fled into the wilderness’ was the ‘Lost Ten Tribes’.
(3) The symbolism starts with the birth and resurrection of Christ. To which we
add 1260 years. By this stage the ‘Lost Ten Tribes’ had migrated to the British
Isles and Scandinavia. (4) So what happened in 1260AD? [ref HYY page 147 ‘The
Second Baron’s War 1264]. Israel-Briton had been protected from most European
conflicts for 1260 years, and was now starting to shake off all foreign
interference. Israel the woman was now coming into the world stage.
Weeks
2Esdras 7:39 to 42 abbreviated, WEBA “This is a day
that has neither sun, moon, stars, cloud, thunder, lightning, wind, water, air,
darkness, evening, morning, summer, spring, heat, winter, frost, cold, hail,
rain, dew, etc. etc,…v:42 “save only the splendor of the glory of the Most
High, whereby all shall see the things that are set before them: v:43 for it shall endure as it were a week of years.”
Obviously not a mere 7 years. The passage is a similar style to the phrase in
Dan 7:18 ‘for ever, even for ever and ever”. The implication is it will endure
for a very, very long time.
Dan 9:24 “Seventy weeks are decreed
as to your people and as to your holy city…”
Dan 9:25 “Know therefore …to
Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks…”
Dan 9:26 “And after sixty-two weeks Messiah
shall be cut off, but not for Himself...”
Dan 9:27 “..he shall confirm the covenant..for one week:..in the
midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..”
These were covered above under the heading of ‘Splitting
of Prophecies?’ Everyone accepts these as a week = 7 days
= 7 years (LT).
Months
Eze 39:12-14 “And seven months shall the
house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.” I think
this would have to mean a literal seven months. If not it would be 7x 30 days
= 210 days = 210 years (LT)! That is a long time to be cleaning
up the dead after the battle of Armageddon.
Eze 47:12 “And all trees for food
shall go up by the torrent, on its bank on this side, and on that side. Its
leaf shall not fade, nor its fruit fail. It will bear by its months, because
its waters come out from the sanctuary…” Again the context gives the meaning.
It is speaking of a tree fruiting at a given time, meaning a literal month.
Zec 11:8 “I also cut off three
shepherds in one month;
and my soul was impatient with them, and their soul also despised me.” In the
context of the rest of Zechariah chapter 11, we have the thirty pieces of
silver that was a prophetic reference to the money paid to Judas. So the ‘one month’
may well be prophetic time which could be 30 days (PT) = 30 years
(LT). But I am open to suggestion.
Gal 4:10 “You observe days, and months, and times, and years.” Covered
above under the heading of “YEAR Interpreted As Literal”
Rev 9:5 “And to them it was given
that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months. And their
torment was like a scorpion's torment when he stings a man.” [ref Gill on Rev
9:5]. Using Old Testament symbolism the ‘scorpion’ represented a scourge from
the east. Try this idea, take the ‘five months’ as 5 x 30 days =
150 days = 150 years (LT). History shows that Mohammed’s
followers, (from the east), commenced their attack on Christendom in the year
612AD. Exactly 150 years later in 762AD the Eastern Caliph moved it’s capital
from Syria and established Baghdad. Then Arab-Christian hostility subsided.
[ref HYY pages 108 and 114]
Rev 9:10 “And they had tails like
unto scorpions, …and their power was to hurt men five months.” Refer
Rev 9:5 above
Rev 9:15 “And the four angels
were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
the third part of men.” See below under ‘Exceptions to The Rule’
Rev 11:2 “But the court which is
without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the
Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.” So 42 months
= 42 x 30 days =42x30 years = 1260 years. [ref CN Gill on Rev
11:2] and [ref CN Barnes on Rev 11:2]. Also you might find of interest, [ref CN
Geneva on Rev 11:2]
Rev 13:5 “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking
great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty
and two months.”
As above =1260 years. This is the ‘Little Horn’ speaking great blasphemies. Who
in European history has been doing that for centuries? One of the Popes MANY
claims of authority is; “Where Peter (or his successor) is, there is the
Church." "There
is No Allegiance to Christ Without Submission to the Pope").
[ref HCC vol.6 ch.10] [ ref HCC vol. 6 ch.1:8]. The ‘Puppet’ Pope, [ref HCC
vol.3 ch.5:64, ‘Vigilius, a pliant creature’], came to power in 538AD.
In 1798 the Pope was take prisoner by Napoleon’s General Berthier. Do the
Maths! 1798 - 538 = 1260 years. From the historic interpretation view that was
the end of the 3 ½ (prophetic years) = 42 months = 1260 real
years.
Rev 22:2 “In the midst of the
street…was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and
yielded her fruit every month” As per Eze 47:12 above the context gives the
meaning. It is speaking of a tree fruiting at a given time, meaning a literal
month
Season
2Esdras 13:26, WEBA “the same is he whom the Most High has kept a great season, which by his own self shall deliver his creature: and he shall order those who are left behind.” Refer to Baruch 6:3 below, ‘a long season’. This whole chapter is a vision of Armageddon and Christ is the ‘he’ whom the Most High has kept a long period awaiting this moment.
2Esdras 14:5, WEBA “and told him many wondrous things, and
showed him the secrets of the times, and the end of the seasons; and commanded him,
saying,” This is God changing the Prophetic Times and Seasons of Kingdoms as He
chooses. Or in other words, directing the number of years that a Kingdom will
exist or when it will rise and when it will fall.
Baruch 6:3, WEBA “So when you come to Babylon, you shall
remain there many years, and for a long season, even for seven generations: and
after that I will bring you out peaceably from thence.” Daniel was amongst the
first to go into captivity in 605 BC. The last recorded return was Nehemiah in
445BC. That comes to 605-445=160 years, defiantly longer than a season
which = 90 days = 90 years.
Dan 7:11 “Then I was looking because of the voice of the
great words which the horn spoke. I watched until the beast was slain,
and his body was destroyed and given to the burning flame. Dan 7:12 As
concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet
their lives were prolonged for a season and time.”
This should be read in conjunction with Dan 2 and ‘The Statue’. The Little horn
& Beast are the Ten Toes, or the Papal-European system. The Stone is not
Christ as many think; it’s the Anglo-Saxon people, (Ephraim-Israel). They came
into prominence under Elizabeth I, tackling the Spanish, France, Germany, and
Italy etc, who were tail end of the Papal-European. The other kingdoms that
Daniel saw were the Babylonian, Medo-Persians and the Greeks kingdoms. They did
in effect remain untainted by Papal Rome. So their kingdoms linger a season
=90 days + time 360 days =
450 days = 450 years (LT).
Dan 2:21 “And He changes the times and the seasons; He
removes kings and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to
those who have understanding.” See 2Esdras 14:5 above. God setting up and
pulling down kingdoms as He sees fit.
Act 1:7 “And he said unto them, It is not for you to know
the times
or the seasons,
which the Father hath put in his own power.”
1Th 5:1 “But of the times and the seasons,
brethren, you have no need that I write unto you.” For both of these see
2Esdras 14:5 above.
Rev 6:11 “And white robes were
given unto every one of them;…that they should rest yet for a little season, until
their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they
were, should be fulfilled.” In other words ‘wait a while, more martyrs will
join you shortly.’
Rev 20:3 “And cast him into the
bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should
deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and
after that he must be loosed a little season.” This is when Satan is loosed
after the 1000 years in the bottomless pit. He will gather any who are willing
to challenge Christ’s rule. A season is 90 days =
90 years, so ‘a little season’ could mean it might take Satan some time short
of 90 years to launch his final attack.
Times
Dan 11:24 “He shall enter
peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that
which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter
among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his
devices against the strong holds, even for a time.” time = 360 days
= 360 years (LT). [Ref HYY page 60 ‘The Ptolemaic Dynasty ruled Egypt for 275
years]. Also you can [ref CN Barnes and Gill on Dan 11:24]
Seven Times Punishment Warning.
Hands up if you have ever heard
of “The SEVEN Times Punishment”? You can find it in Lev. 26: 14-46. When God is
saying to the Israelites I put before you life and death, choose ye life etc.
God is basically saying in this passage, “the bottom line is” if you walk
contrary to me; refuse my correction; continue to break my commandments; etc.
etc. Then He will walk contrary to them, He will scatter them among
the nations and He will punish them SEVEN times.
Lev 26:18 “And if you will not yet listen to Me for
all this, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.”
Lev 26:21 “..you walk contrary to Me, and will not
listen to Me, I will bring seven times more plagues on you according to
your sins.”
Lev 26:24 “then I will walk contrary to you and will
punish you seven times
more for your sins.”
Lev 26:28 “then I will walk contrary to you also in
fury. And I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.”
But what is SEVEN times? You have
all heard of the old favourite, “Time Times and Half a Time”, well seven times
is double that.
So Time Times and Half a Time
(PT) = 3 ½ time = 42 months = 1260 days
(PT) = 1260 literal years. So 7 Times = 2520 literal years. [ref
CN F.B. Meter on Daniel 12:7]. Now that figure is a very useful tool for
interpreting major world events in relation to Israel and Judah. If you pick
any major event in Israel or Judah’s history you can add 2520 years and you
will find some amazing corresponding event! But getting the right start date is
the tricky bit. You can refer to my talk “BRITISH ISRAEL – National Promises --
Seven Times Punishment”
The classic is the fall of
Jerusalem in 604. Just add 2520 years and we get, the year 1917. [Or –604 +1
(no year zero) +2520 = 1917]. That was the year, according to prophecy, that
Jerusalem was to be no longer under the control of the Gentile Nations, and the
seven times punishment was finished. So what happened in 1917? In World War I
the Turkish army fled from Jerusalem and General Allenby walked into Jerusalem
11.Dec.1917. Without a shot fired. Jerusalem was no longer under Gentile rule!
The Jews WORLD WIDE were then able to return to Jerusalem.
Daniel Chapters 10, 11 and 12
Daniel Chapters 10, 11 and 12
I am no expert on interpreting
prophecies; I suggest you go to [ref CN Barnes, Gill or Meyer on Dan chapters
10, 11 & 12], and there are many other commentaries obtainable through
‘e-Sword’. These three chapters are one continuous vision. Cyrus and Darius the
Mede are the same person, [ref UD 560 BC par 902]. Presumably it is Gabriel
speaking, he tells Daniel in Dan 11:1 ‘I stood up for Darius the Mede’. Then he
unfolds history from then to the second coming of Christ, Dan 12:2. So this
throws a lot of impact on the angels question, “Until when shall be the end
of these wonders?” Dan 12:7 is a full talk in itself! [ref to my ‘Blogg’
entitled “Daniel Chapters 10, 11 & 12”].
Dan 12:6 “And one said to the man
clothed in linen on the waters of the river: Until when shall be the end of
these wonders? Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was on
the waters of the river, when he held up his right and his left hand to Heaven,
and swore by Him who lives forever that it shall be for a time, times,
and a half. And when (they or he) have made an end of
scattering the power of the holy people, all these things shall be
finished.”
[time, times & ½ =1260 days
=1260 years (LT). I suggest Google 1260 Year Prophecy of Papal Supremacy (AD538-1798 ...
]
Dan 12:8 “And I heard, but I did
not understand. Then I said, O my lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And He said, Go, Daniel! For the words are closed up and sealed until
the end-time. Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried. But
the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the
wise shall understand. Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily
sacrifice shall be taken away, and the desolating abomination set up,
a thousand two hundred and ninety days shall occur.”
“From the time”, this gives us the starting date. Compare
Mat 24:4-17, Mar 13:5-17 and Luk 21:10-22. All three passages are an account of
the same speech by Jesus. You will find that, “the abomination of desolation
spoken of by Daniel the prophet”; is described in plain language by Luke
as “Jerusalem compassed with armies”. That happened in 70 AD with the fall of
Jerusalem, [ref EB, “Jewish Revolt,
FIRST”]. So 1290 days = 1290 years (LT), starting from 70AD = 70
+ 1290 =1360 AD? That’s what it comes to, but it makes no sense to me either.
So I’m open to suggestion if you have any ideas. The other alternative is to
look at the passage in reverse. Who is doing the scattering? Refer Daniel 12:7,
some translations say “he”. Now go to Lev 26:33 “And I (God) will scatter
you among the heathen.” That finished in 1917 when the Jews were invited to
return to Jerusalem. That also evolved the end of the Turkish, (or Gentile),
rule or the Holy Land. So perhaps we should use the Mohammedans calendar, as in
my paper “Daniel Chapters 10, 11 & 12”.
Dan 12:12 “Blessed
is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five
days.”
This one I do know. the Mohammedans calendar also
applies in this verse. Google “1335
and 1917” or Jerusalem 1917-1335 - Constant Contact. And
it was also the end of the Seven Times Punishment. It is more than just a
coincidence of dates.
Exceptions to the Rules
A Day Is As A Thousand
Years? There are some passages
that are NOT LITERAL and also they DO NOT follow the rule of “a day for a
year”. For example we have the phrase, “A Day is as A Thousand Years”. Peter
refers to Psalms 90:4 and explains this for us this way. 2Pe 3:8 “…that one day is with the
Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” Lets
nickname this phrase a ‘Long Day’. So if we then apply this ‘Long
Day’ to some other scriptures, they then start to make a bit more
sense. Lets try the following.
Gen 2:17 “but you
shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of
it you shall surely die.” Well some people would tell us that the day Adam
ate of the forbidden fruit he “spiritually” died. That’s reasonable. Adam and
Eve could no longer ‘face’ God when they heard Him walking in the garden Gen
3:8-23. Alternatively if we applied the ‘Long Day’, we could say
this. If Adam and Eve had NOT eaten of the forbidden fruit, but ate of the
other trees, including the Tree of Life, they could have lived FOREVER! Refer
Gen 3:22. So the first thousand years of their life could be interpreted as
“the day” or ‘Long Day’ that God was referring to
when He said, ‘in that day you shall surely die’. If we follow that
line of thought, then Adam took the best part of one thousand literal years
before he died. In other words Adam only lived for one ‘Long Day’.
GOD’s GREAT WEEK Also on this bases of the ‘Long Day’
we get the principle of what is known as “Gods GREAT WEEK”. It is not mentioned
in scripture, but if you go to e-Sword, [ref Graphics Viewer, Larkin, Chart 57-
The Weeks of Scripture, “The Week of Millenniums”]. History runs as follows;
from Adam to Christ is 4000 years. From Calvary to the return of Christ is 2000
years. The Millennial reign of Christ is 1000 years. Totalling 7000 years, that
is seven ‘Long Days’, referred to as “Gods GREAT WEEK”.
Hos 6:2 “After two
days He
will bring us to life; in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live
in His sight” All of Hosea chapters 4,5 and 6 are prophetic and they seem
to flow one to another, so it is fair to assume that the word ‘day’
could be interpreted as a year of literal time. So it could be said that Hosea
was saying, “If we behave as God asks us to do for ‘2’ years, in the third year
God will make us mighty in His sight”. Or alternatively if we apply the ‘Long
Day’ it could be interpreted as this. From Christ to the second coming
is 2 ‘Long Days’, after which ‘He will bring us to life’.
In the third ‘Long Day’, which is the millennium, ‘we shall
live in His sight’. It is interesting how God can give in one prophecy
a possible double fulfilment.
Luk 13:7 ‘The Fig Tree’
Yes it is just a parable, but
what if we look at it on the bases of the ‘Long Day’? Luk 13:7
“And he said to the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking
fruit on this fig-tree, and find none. Cut it down, why does it encumber the
ground? v:8 And answering, he said to him, Lord, let it alone this year also, until I
dig around it and throw manure. v:9 And if it bears fruit, well; and if not,
then after that you shall cut it down.” Judah is often referred to as a ‘vine’
or ‘fig-tree’ in prophecy or parables, refer Hos 9:10, Joe 1:7, Nah 3:12 and
others. In the commentary notes, [ref CN, Barnes on Luke 13:7], he refers to
the three years as Christ’s ministry. I have the view that we could start from
Abraham and interpret it this way. God, the owner of the vineyard, is talking
to Christ, the gardener, and says, ‘this fig-tree is in its third thousand
years!! Christ says, give it another thousand years, if nothing; then rip it
out!’ Could that have meant that if the gospel had not ‘flourished’ after the
year 1000 AD. God would have cut His losses, destroyed the world, and start a
new creation?
“YEAR” The Odd One
This is the odd occurrence of the
word year, which I mentioned above. Rev 9:15
“And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
the third part of men.” This is Strong’s word no. [G1763 = eniautos
or en-ee-ow-tos' Prolonged from a primary word å̓́íïò enos (a year); a
year: - year]. Also [ref CN, Barnes or PNT or Gill on Rev 9:15]. Being the Prolonged form of ‘year’,
it is not the literal form, so I believe we should apply the, ‘the day for a
year’, as do the commentary notes.
Therefore it is to be interpreted
as a ‘year’ (PT). Back to basics; we convert every thing to days
- add it up - then a ‘day for a year’.
We get; (day) +(30 days)
+(360 days) =391 days =391 years (LT); Plus the hour
= 15 days (LT). That’s still only a bit over 391 years.
I tend to go along with Gill’s
and A.J. Ferris’s commentaries, the 391 years represents the rise of the Turks.
The Turks crossed the Euphrates in 1062 AD. and began their slaughter
of the Eastern Third of the old Roman Empire. Exactly 391 years
later they took Constantinople 1453 AD. and the onslaught subsided. [ref The Second Advent:
How, When, Where? / A. J. Ferris. - Fourth Edition.]
Conclusion
As you can see I have only delved into prophecies that have
some period of prophetic time associated with them. I hope I have managed to
explain them to your satisfaction, and also I hope I have given you some food
for thought. Remember the context will help you to determine whether or not to
take the passage in question as prophetic time or literal time. Then we just add up the days and apply ‘a
day for a year’. Also you may need to find the start date for the commencement
of a prophecy. Remember the biblical term “The WORLD” does NOT always mean the
whole planet, it meant the Roman World. Refer Luke 2:1 “..there went out a
decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.” It
didn’t include India, China etc. So don’t get into a tangle trying to apply
prophecies to the whole world.
I believe the biggest problem with trying to understand
these grand old prophecies is our lack of knowledge of history. If you wish to
make a hobby of studying prophecies and history, a cheap way is to download FREE
all the reference material from “e-Sword”. There are about 30 sets of
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event that fits the prophecy perfectly.
Thank you for your time. I hope
you have enjoyed the talk
God Bless You, yours Adrian